ImRichBatman Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 SBuzzkill thanks for the thoughts. From what I gather, if I am serious about flight time and am basically itching to really make the most of my service time the best thing I could do is go for the 160th, understanding that theyre at the top of the food chain, since they seem to be pretty high speed and fly almost twice as much...? Im not a warmonger or looking for a fight but if I can serve and there is a fight Id rather spend my time winning it than holding down a base stateside if I had a choice, is why I ask for thoughts on deployment. Not that theres anything wrong with an assignment in the US at all, just wondering if anyone had any educated guesses as to what the drawdown will probably look like in terms of who gets deployed or where.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brackac Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 Any of you guys stationed at Campbell? I'm trying to get on post and possibly talk to some aviators. I've emailed the XO but no luck. Anybody know how I could get in post and talk to some warrants? He's slightly busy. Might want to try someone lower on the totem pole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick7 Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 Yeah I called the 101st combat brigade today and a pilot acutely answered the phone. I'm going to call back tomorrow to set up an appointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apacheguy Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 Yeah I called the 101st combat brigade today and a pilot acutely answered the phone. I'm going to call back tomorrow to set up an appointment.I never 'actually' learned how to 'acutely' answer the phone while in the 101st combat AVIATION brigade...but then that was back when we were just 3 battalions of apaches and 2-17 Cav. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brackac Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 I never 'actually' learned how to 'acutely' answer the phone while in the 101st combat AVIATION brigade...but then that was back when we were just 3 battalions of apaches and 2-17 Cav. He's obviously never worked staff duty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apacheguy Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 He's obviously never worked staff duty.I have, but then I also learned how to spell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon64 Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 What is the too tall requirement for aviators? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flim Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 One dude on here is 6"4"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flim Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Double Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deegs Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 Hey all, I love all of the information that is on this site and it has helped me a ton as I prepare my packet. I am currently still in school (graduating in December) and I just had a few questions since I will be applying for next semesters classes soon. 1) I could possibly take an aeronautical science minor next semester, which would also provide me with a private pilots license (fixed wing) but my recruiter feels that prior flight experience would hurt me since I may have learned something different from the school than what the Army plans to teach. As far as I know, this does not seem to be the case but is there some merit to this? 2) Do these stats seem competitive? Age-21College- BS Business Management and BS Managerial Accounting Cum GPA ~3.2 APFT-300 (unofficial just training myself at the moment) SIFT-not takenGT-124 (expired) studying and expect to get higher Prior experience-pending on college LORs-full bird COL, retired CSM of ?north western? Medical region, ex-Air Force pilot (flew Air Force Two), college football coach, working on 2 CWs right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBuzzkill Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 Aviation experience is a positive thing not a negative and flying outside of the Army is an important confidence boost for you. Your stats look good so keep doing what you're doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flim Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 Flying experience will only help you! There are only so many ways to set an altimeter... hint, you will learn the basics which will carry through any flying job and it is all taught the same. Now, from my experience in the airlines is that each company will have different procedures and Sop's for the same aircraft, but having the basic knowledge makes it easy to change and adjust. When you get to Army flight school, you will not be rushing to learn all the small stuff... you will be only learning their procedures and the way they do it! Really it's the same for any civilian job as well... no one operates the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocity173 Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 Hey all, I love all of the information that is on this site and it has helped me a ton as I prepare my packet. I am currently still in school (graduating in December) and I just had a few questions since I will be applying for next semesters classes soon. 1) I could possibly take an aeronautical science minor next semester, which would also provide me with a private pilots license (fixed wing) but my recruiter feels that prior flight experience would hurt me since I may have learned something different from the school than what the Army plans to teach. As far as I know, this does not seem to be the case but is there some merit to this? 2) Do these stats seem competitive? Age-21College- BS Business Management and BS Managerial Accounting Cum GPA ~3.2APFT-300 (unofficial just training myself at the moment)SIFT-not takenGT-124 (expired) studying and expect to get higher Prior experience-pending on college LORs-full bird COL, retired CSM of ?north western? Medical region, ex-Air Force pilot (flew Air Force Two), college football coach, working on 2 CWs right now. Your recruiter is wrong. Years ago when I applied the "preferred prerequisites" listed were 5-8 yrs military experience (basically an NCO) and a PPL. That statement has since been removed from the application requirements. I can tell you the first time I applied I was only an E-3 and no license and was FQNS. Later as an E-5 with a PPL I got picked up. Can't say the addition of the PPL is what made the difference but it sure didn't hurt me. I'm sure the boards these days look at it as a positive rating. Definitely not something required, but positive. Having said that, no one at Rucker that instructs will care if you have your license. First time I flew the TH-67 in cruise I was doing good and my IP could tell I had previous flight experience. Next day I almost killed us trying to hover. FW experience has very little to do with flying a helicopter. It won't hurt you either. You can easily dump what bad habits you might have learned in FW and fly the "Army way." The license will most certainly help with academics the first few months as well. License or not, the program is still designed to take someone with no flight experience and make them into an aviator. If you're not a complete moron and have average hand / eye coordination, you'll do fine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) This point can be argued a million ways, but I found my fixed wing experience was immensely helpful, and once you are through ETL, helicopters and fixed wing is practically the same. Most street to seaters I knew with extensive ratings and hours had grades at the top of their class. But I also know dudes with Zero time that absolutely dominated flight school. Edited March 31, 2014 by akscott60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deegs Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 Thank you everyone for the insight. It was my understanding that it would only help too but I wasn't about to argue with the guy. Thanks again everyone and if there is anything else I should be working on at the moment, all suggestions are greatly appreciated! I'm just studying up on the SIFT right now and staying in physical condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deegs Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Sorry all for double posting, but I have another question after raking these forums for info: it's my understanding that upon selection it takes approximately ?6-8? months until you head to BCT? If this is correct I feel like I should apply now and cut down the time between graduation (Dec 2014) and my report date. If I do this though, can I not claim my degrees that I will be receiving after my theoretical board date? I just want to get the process started as soon as possible, but do not want to hurt myself on possible selection points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM1 Posted April 12, 2014 Report Share Posted April 12, 2014 Start applying now, it will probably take that long to get everything ready anyways, then update your packet with the degree at the last minute. There is a spot on one of the forms for "expected graduation date" as well. The way I would play your situation is to apply without the degree finished (many do get picked up without it finished) and update it if you make it before that board, and if not and you dont get selected, update it for your second look along with better PT scores ect. Don't be in my boat and be looking at getting in on the july board, when i was shooting for the january board initially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick7 Posted April 13, 2014 Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 Hey guys, I was talking to some WOs and they said there's roughly a 70%/30% split between interservice and civilian selects. Why are there so many more interservice than civilians? Do they favor military experience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon64 Posted April 13, 2014 Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 Aviation is the only mos that is not a technical mos. All the other warrant officer mos you require years of technical expertise which more often than not is military experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick7 Posted April 13, 2014 Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 So why are there such a large percentage of inter-service aviators? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nskojo Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 So why are there such a large percentage of inter-service aviators? I have no idea honestly, if I were to guess the Army realizes an inter-service pilot probably will be closer or over the 10 year mark when done with their initial 6 year commitment. Means they haven't spent all this money training you for you to decide to leave after 6 years (not saying it doesn't happen). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaurus Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 The Army's mix has averaged 60% prior service, 40% civilian for at least 40 years. That's the way they do business for whatever reason. There's obviously pros and cons on that particular policy. It's interesting that you'll have prior enlisted from a another service go WOFT and some aviation Warrant Officers will take their talents to another service in finishing out their flying career. It all balances out in the end game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StockTrader Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 So why are there such a large percentage of inter-service aviators? Im guessing because most of the civilian world doesnt know the program exists unless you search for it. I thought the only way to fly as of a year ago was to be a commission officer out of west point or OCS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBHX Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 I m a French helicopter pilot in French militarian police force (gendarmerie). I can tell you about recruitment in French helicopter forces (sorry fof my English). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel5187 Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Hey guys, New to the forum and I am happy to say I just signed the contract for the WOFT program today! Got my dates and I'll be going to basic in November. I'm sad to say that I didn't find this "mother load" of info earlier on, it would of surely made my life alot easier. A shout out to Lindsey for her great guide and all others who have contributed to this thread(still reading), it will surely be useful so I can adequately prepare for what lays in front of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.