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#601 flanker

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Posted 20 May 2017 - 15:09

I hear you on that.

I see classes rucking almost every morning. Did you all do much of that?

  
Two rucks at wocs unless it has changed. People ruck during PT, but usually its the enlisted side. 



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Posted 31 May 2017 - 10:30

A few I've talked to have said WOCS is worse than basic. You guys agree or disagree?

 

It's more "mental", in its own way.   But I don't think you'll find yourself getting smoked like you did in Basic.  But it's been over a decade now, for me.



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Posted 01 June 2017 - 13:09

I have a question for those familiar with the woft application process, will try and make this brief as possible.

 

I started the process in February. Recruiter has never done a packet but seems more than willing to help and has all the steps planned out. I have taken the asvab (92 afqt, 128 GT). Asvab was taken march. Since then I have been attempting to get my med read approved to get physical done.

 

I had elbow surgery(tommy john) about 7 years agos. According to recruiter the surgery has been accepted but meps has not given me the green light. First they wanted a few doc notes with more info on surgery. No problem there but then they wanted prescription records due to 1 bottle of hydrocodone on records for pain after surgery.

 

I gave recruiter a doc note explaining why I was prescribed hydrocodone and recruiter is now telling me the med read was sent back but with no new information so he doesn't know what to do.

 

Recruiter says he cant read the cursive writing by meps docs so has to get messages translated by his team lead( which takes 1 to 2 weeks to get done every new message). Last time I called was on speaker phone with him and team lead. The lead briefly skimmed over what was being asked by meps and basically said in a half hearted voice, " yeah idk ive never seen this, you have just taken everything haven't you?"(referring to the meds but there all related to surgery and only 3 diff meds)

 

Is it time to find a new recruiting station? Can I personally call meps and ask what they need?  I have not been told I was disqualified but its been over a month and have not heard anything back on what needs to be done.

 

 



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Posted 02 June 2017 - 09:59

Yeah I would start looking for a new recruiter.  Something similar happened to me with my security clearance but good thing that the recruiting place got a new boss who had done these applications before. Still took almost 2 years. 

 

Anyway don't waste your time with people who cant read cursive.



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Posted 06 June 2017 - 15:07

Yeah I would start looking for a new recruiter.  Something similar happened to me with my security clearance but good thing that the recruiting place got a new boss who had done these applications before. Still took almost 2 years. 

 

Anyway don't waste your time with people who cant read cursive.

Thanks for the info, I thought this might be the case but wasn't too sure. Everytime I have called he does not call back but rather sends text messages so we communicate via text message. Is this common now a days?

Another week and a half gone by without hearing a single thing about what needs to be done to get past this step.



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Posted 06 June 2017 - 15:47

Thanks for the info, I thought this might be the case but wasn't too sure. Everytime I have called he does not call back but rather sends text messages so we communicate via text message. Is this common now a days?

Another week and a half gone by without hearing a single thing about what needs to be done to get past this step.

 

Yeah its time to find someone else. That's total bs.



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Posted 06 June 2017 - 17:35

Depending on how far into the process you are, be aware that you can create some pretty serious confusion if a new recruiter is going to run you through the same MEPs station, especially if you still have a pending medical under review, however slow and painful it is.  

 

Before you go recruiter shopping, you might want to have the heart to heart with your recruiter and tell him you want to talk directly to the MEPS medical person. If you can't get any resolution ask to speak to his supervisor, or even company commander. 

 

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Posted 06 June 2017 - 17:40

First post here.
I have been looking into WOCS/WOFT For some time now and feel like I have been getting mixed information on a couple of things.
The first thing: is the board an actual in person interview or is it just a review of your packet? If it is an interview what do they ask during it?
Second: I have seen mixed answers in my searching on whether or not civilian applicants attend basic then head to WOCS.

What is the average time it takes to complete an application then get a board? And what is the time from basic to completion of flight training?

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Posted 06 June 2017 - 17:57

Depending on how far into the process, be aware that you can create some pretty serious confusion if a new recruiter is going to run you through the same MEPs station, especially if you still have a pending medical under review, however slow and painful it is.  

 

Before you go recruiter shopping, you might want to have the heart to heart with your recruiter and tell him you want to talk directly to the MEPS medical person. If you can't get any resolution ask to speak to his supervisor, or even company commander. 

 

Mike-

Thanks for the input, these were some of the thoughts I had as well. Basically ive gone to meps an taken the asvab and that's it. Been hung up on getting my med read approved for a couple months. Recruiter said my elbow surgery has been approved but meps has issues with medication that was given for post surgery. 

 

I have submitted 2 or 3 documents now and the recruiter has been very prompt/helpful up to this point. The only two things I can think are he has either gotten extremely busy as high school students just graduated or he just doesn't want to deal with the packet anymore.

 

Is talking to meps an option? I will have to ask next time I can get ahold of him

I have talked to his supervisor, he was the one on speaker phone and said "idk what they want".



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Posted 07 June 2017 - 07:45

Thanks for the input, these were some of the thoughts I had as well. Basically ive gone to meps an taken the asvab and that's it. Been hung up on getting my med read approved for a couple months. Recruiter said my elbow surgery has been approved but meps has issues with medication that was given for post surgery. 
 
I have submitted 2 or 3 documents now and the recruiter has been very prompt/helpful up to this point. The only two things I can think are he has either gotten extremely busy as high school students just graduated or he just doesn't want to deal with the packet anymore.
 
Is talking to meps an option? I will have to ask next time I can get ahold of him
I have talked to his supervisor, he was the one on speaker phone and said "idk what they want".

The unfortunate reality of MEPS and recruiting is the priority is always the enlistees. Before you try and change recruiting stations I would try and speak with the recruiting company Commander. If you address the issue with him, the Commander has a direct line to MEPS and he may be able to get you over this hurdle. I can imagine how frustrating it has been but the way the situation sounds, the recruiter is trying to help but his hands are tied with getting answers from MEPS in a timely manner.

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 05:08

Pardon me, if I miss some info, I wanted to ask how many times the aplicant cud apply for WOFT or the are no limit ?


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Posted 11 June 2017 - 13:30

Pardon me, if I miss some info, I wanted to ask how many times the aplicant cud apply for WOFT or the are no limit ?


No limit. Once you submit a packet you will get looked at by up to two boards, and if not selected, you must wait one year to resubmit.

Good luck!

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 14:02

First post here.
I have been looking into WOCS/WOFT For some time now and feel like I have been getting mixed information on a couple of things.
The first thing: is the board an actual in person interview or is it just a review of your packet? If it is an interview what do they ask during it?
Second: I have seen mixed answers in my searching on whether or not civilian applicants attend basic then head to WOCS.

What is the average time it takes to complete an application then get a board? And what is the time from basic to completion of flight training?

Hope this helps, but from what I know:

 

1) There is a panel interview you will be presented to. I'm not sure what they ask, I have mine in July *fingers crossed*

 

2) As far as straight "high school to flight school" civilian with no prior service, we will have to attend BCT first. 

 

It took me approximately 1.5 years to finish my packet. I actually just submitted it last week and am hoping to interview in July. The time it takes to finish the packet depends on you and how well you and your recruiter work together. You can do most of it yourself. 



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Posted 25 June 2017 - 13:47

First time poster, lots of good info on these forums!
Started putting WOFT packet together, still waiting on 1 more LOR and hoping to get SIFT/ASVAB scheduled and then a flight physical. But my Recruiter not getting back to me and not sure what the next step is. I know I will most likely need a med waiver due to suffering 2 heat strokes in USMC OCS in 2011. Haven't been able to track down any medical records other than civilian doctor records that cleared me and said I was fine after I got discharged from OCS.

Curious on thoughts and chances of getting a med waiver?
Age:27
PFT: 270
BS in Aeronautics with commercial pilots license and couple hundred hours and currently instructor and flight operations manager flying UAVs at Ft. Pickett

Thanks!

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 22:00

Hello vertical reference community!

 

I am new to the forum, and this is my first post. I just wanted to start by saying that I really like what you all are doing here. This is a fantastic treasure trove of information for potential WOFT applicants. That being said, I am also currently working on putting together a packet, and have been frequenting this forum. I am a 26 year old who has been working in the wildlife biology field since finishing college four years ago (non-prior service). I am serious about pursuing Army Aviation and want to put together the best packet that I can.

 

Thus far I have taken the unproctored Picat test (newer version of the ASVAB, I had never heard of it until meeting the recruiter) and have a trip to MEPS scheduled for August 17 and 18 to take the proctored Picat verification test, the SIFT, and to get my initial physical done.

 

From what I gathered via online resources I will not be signing a contract during this MEPS trip, so I should not let anyone convince me to do so if street to seat is my desired career path, correct? If everything goes well at MEPS, I plan on getting my flight physical scheduled as soon as possible. The only hangup I can foresee is my vision. Corrected my vision is 20/15, uncorrected my near sight is 20/20, and my distance is 20/70.

 

While thinking about my LORs, I was initially planning that my six could be: 1. My employer, 2. My former college roommate's mother (retired USAF LTC), 3. A senior WO, 4. Mayor of my college town, 5. Politician from my home state, and 6. another politician from my home state. Then after thinking about it, my current work in the wildlife biology field takes me to a different state about every 3-6 months for seasonal positions and I may be able to use that to my advantage to gather LORs from multiple states to set me apart from other applicants.

 

Currently I am in interior Alaksa, so maybe it would be beneficial to find a senior WO or two stationed at Ft. Greely, Ft. Richardson, or Ft. Wainwright that would be willing to meet with me, answer some questions, and write a LOR. Then next month I will be heading to California, through until early 2018, for more seasonal work. If I could also secure senior WOs from Ft. Irwin, the Sierra Army Depot, and Los Alamitos I think my packet would carry some serious weight. Does this sound like a solid idea to the members of this forum? If so, does anyone have any recommendations for finding the contact information for WOs on a given airfield? If anyone has any information and/or contacts that would put me in touch with senior WOs it would be most appreciated, and I would certainly carry out all of the leg work on it. Even if someone has advice for finding a publicly available directory of service members where I can search for names at each of these installations.

 

A long first post (f you finished reading it, thanks for your patience)!  Until next week the plan is to keep studying the FAA Flight Manual and keeping up with the physical activity.

 

Cheers,

Kyle



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Posted 15 August 2017 - 11:34

While thinking about my LORs, I was initially planning that my six could be:.....
 
Cheers,
Kyle


Reduce that to 3, 4 at the most.
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Posted 15 August 2017 - 20:26

Thanks for the advice. Maybe shooting for 3 WOs, my USAF LTC contact, my current employer, and a state level politician would provide a good mix.

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 21:18

Wait. So you were given advice to reduce LORs down to 3 or 4, you respond thanking him, and then proceed to ignore the advice given?

Sorry if that seems harsh, but the 3-4 LORs is sage wisdom given by the most knowledgeable member on this forum (stearmann4). I recommend you do a search for LOR advice on this subforum to see why.
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Posted 15 August 2017 - 21:19

Also, what is your plan if you are denied based on your eyesight? Have you looked into LASIK/PRK?

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Posted 16 August 2017 - 13:33

I think I misunderstood Creep0321. I was thinking he was advising a reduction of LORs from WOs down to 3-4. You are implying he meant the total number of LORs from 6 to 3-4?

I am also strongly considering PRK in the event my vision is deemed inadequate.
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