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#681 redlightning54

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Posted 11 May 2018 - 10:24

Ended up just taking it this morning instead of waiting, scored a 56. Obviously not the best score but I'll take it (no option regardless lol). 

Call a couple college ROTC departments. That's how I ended up taking mine.

 

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Posted 30 May 2018 - 20:39

Ended up just taking it this morning instead of waiting, scored a 56. Obviously not the best score but I'll take it (no option regardless lol). 

 

Its much better than a 41, You're a good 6 points above the mean I wouldnt sweat it too much. What would you say was the most difficult section for you? I'm prepping for mine on July 21st. 



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Posted 31 May 2018 - 16:35

Hidden figures is a bitch. I may have done 7-10 total. The math is definitely tough, as it just gets harder as you get questions right.

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Posted 03 June 2018 - 11:46

Ended up just taking it this morning instead of waiting, scored a 56. Obviously not the best score but I'll take it (no option regardless lol). 

I got selected with a 42 soft score. Just apply and make sure you put your best foot forward.

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Posted 04 June 2018 - 16:06

Hi, everyone!

 

I have been on this website for less than two hours now, so if I have missed any easily accessible information don't hessitate to let me know.   I am a prior- service Marine and I wonder if anyone else has any info on how the process for WOFT differs from that of normal civilians? If I read on the USAREC site correctly, I don't have to go to basic training. Other than that noticeable difference I could not find anything else such as retaking the ASVAB when I already have a good score, etc...    

 

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Posted 04 June 2018 - 19:09

When did you get out? When did you drop from IRR? I think the prior service boot camp stuff is in flux right now, but even for USMC if you were beyond 3 years from your IRR drop date you had to go. Not sure if that applies to the regular boot camp requirement now. 

As far as ASVAB, your score should be fine. Mine from 2007 was good. They calculate the line scores a little differently than the Marine Corps, but if you're not walking the line you should be fine. 

 

Seem to be a ton of Marines jumping ship to the Army. I went from USMCR to Guard. I'm waiting for flight school currently and drilling with a Guard aviation unit. They treat their people much better than the USMC, but it's a very different animal. 

 

Are you looking Guard or Regular Army?

 

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Posted 04 June 2018 - 19:56

When did you get out? When did you drop from IRR? I think the prior service boot camp stuff is in flux right now, but even for USMC if you were beyond 3 years from your IRR drop date you had to go. Not sure if that applies to the regular boot camp requirement now. 

As far as ASVAB, your score should be fine. Mine from 2007 was good. They calculate the line scores a little differently than the Marine Corps, but if you're not walking the line you should be fine. 

 

Seem to be a ton of Marines jumping ship to the Army. I went from USMCR to Guard. I'm waiting for flight school currently and drilling with a Guard aviation unit. They treat their people much better than the USMC, but it's a very different animal. 

 

Are you looking Guard or Regular Army?

 

Mike

 

 

 My EAS was July 1, 2015 and I still have 2 months of IRR. 

 

My AFQT is an 87 and my GT:119 

 

I was planning on going regular Army, but from what I've read that you and others have posted the Georgia Guard might be an option. Although I am also looking for the Active benefits as well.  

I have spoken to a few Marines in passing that have become Army Aviators or atleast went back in the Army and they say the same thing. Different but better in ways. 


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Posted 04 June 2018 - 20:18

I mean its painfully obvious that esprit de corps is looked at entirely different, that said I'm proud to wear the Army uniform... especially now that it's actually camouflage again lol. As an infantryman some of the airwinger army stuff is kinda perplexing to me. I was showing privates how to load magazines the other day for example-- in boot camp they don't load their own mags I guess. That shouldn't be a thing, at least not in a ground-combat focused branch of service. 

As to active vs reserves/guard, I think its probably the same branch to branch -- if you aren't looking at a ton of options on the civilian side active is probably the way to go. 

 

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Posted 04 June 2018 - 20:53

Right now Im in college for Mechanical Engineering and have a decent job doing maintenance but I dont want to do it forever and kind of miss being Active duty. Im also not how sure I am about being a practicing engineer, Id rather get my hands dirty than sit behind a desk staring at math. But I also know all the bs that comes with active duty, so I am sort of apprehensive.

I appreciate any info I can get! Thanks!
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Posted 05 June 2018 - 07:57

There is a thread that goes down the list of the downsides to active aviation. According to those in the thread, the long and short of it seems to be the active army aviation community is at a low point morale wise right now, and pilots spend a significant amount of time doing extra duties, almost to an extreme. I'm just summarizing what's in that thread though, and I'm sure it's a situation where your mileage may vary. 

 

My experience with the Guard thus far has just been that it's a bit slower going getting in the door as compared to the active board process so to speak. I've summarized my experiences in another thread, but it took me about a 6 months to a year to get everything together, no doubt a slower process because I wasn't even IRR anymore. The boards aren't held as regularly, and depending on the state, slots can be easy or hard to get.

 

After I boarded in my state, I found out I was selected that day because they wanted to get a jump on getting me in and getting my clearance. That was in March, I was "in" by April drilling with the headquarters company for aviation along with a handful of other selectees, and since I need the 7 week WOCS it looks like January is the soonest I'll get to Rucker if my clearance is all set by then.  So since then, it has been going seemingly as fast as the active selectees. 

 

My advice to you is reach out to both recruiters ASAP. It almost certainly is your benefit to NOT drop from the IRR. As long as you have an IRR status they should be able to work on your clearance (not sure if you already have one, or had one) and just transfer you over component wise. The Marine Corps can give you an "emergency extension" of about 90 days on your IRR time, longer needs paperwork. In my case, like everything else, they screwed it up and I fell off contract. 

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 08:19

Im sitting outside the Army recruiter now. They are in a meeting. They said they have never done a WOFT packet....or an OCS packet because it takes so long. They said that they normally have people join and then try to do it from within. That isnt happening! They told me that the next board they would try to get me on would be July 10 (which is an OCS board) there is a WOCS board on July 23 but the packet date is May 18. Theres no way that my packet would be good enough or even complete by then.

The state Guard HQ is right down the road and there is a Blackhawk unit there (which is what I want) it might behoove me to go talk to them after this is over.

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 08:33

You can't guarantee aviation from the commissioned side. If you want to fly on the active side, you want to do WOFT. And screw enlisting first if you are going active, the WOFT boards are taking almost ALL applicants. Submitting a packet is the way to do it. Considering May 18th was like 3 weeks ago... yea you probably won't be making that time hack. 

 

I think it would be a good idea to meet with someone in the aviation unit down the street. Either way, you are going to need at least one letter of recommendation from a Warrant army pilot, and that is probably the way to meet them. I've found all the officers and warrants (and even senior enlisted for that matter) in Guard aviation to be among the most happy to help, laid back members of the armed forces I've ever met. Though I feel like coming from the USMC is like leaving an abusive relationship where you always expect to get lifed out for doing nothing wrong. There should be someone there who can give you an idea of unit strength, what they need, don't need, etc. When I first contacted my state 2 years ago they told me they weren't looking at applicants off the street and they had a backlog of pilots waiting for flight school slots. A year later I contacted them and there had been some mass exodus of pilots. Best to get in communication with someone in aviation who knows what's going on in that state. 

 

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 09:10

Dang thats true. I know the date today but I guess I didnt realize what date that was haha

Ill talk to them. I feel that way too. Thats why Im so apprehensive about going back in. Im still waiting for their meeting to finish up.

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 11:38

Update from earlier: 

 

I signed a medical record release form from USMC to USA and they took copies of my ID,Passport, and DD-214. I did height and weight/ tape test. Missed tape by 1% (gainz) going back in 12 days to do it again. After that they will schedule my MEPS physical and flight physical, then APFT. He said my Secret clearance should still be fine. ASVAB was good. He said the board in July was the local board they do once a month.  He told me to get my LORs together and study for the SIFT and then we will continue to move forward. That is all I have for now.       I still plan on talking to the GA NG just to see what my options are.     

 

My recruiter 'seems' pretty cool and doesn't seem like he's going to BS me very much considering my prior service. We had some good conversation about Afghanistan deployments and he was actually a Logistics support guy for the 160th. and did Green Platoon and deployed with them. I asked if he knew any current Nightstalker pilots and he said, "not anymore, my commander but he lost his flight status because of a DUI". Granted, he's never done a WOFT packet before he seems to have a grasp on it.   

 

Looks like it's salads and running and less beer and barbells for a little while at least. 

 

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 17:13

Whiskey and black coffee... for health and stuff.
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Posted 05 June 2018 - 17:33

Together or whiskey in the morning and coffee at night?


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Posted 05 June 2018 - 19:22

Yes?


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Posted 06 June 2018 - 11:59

Very well, carry on. 


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