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#41 av8rnik

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 18:26

Same here. Went in to sign some forms my recruiter had. I didnt ask specifically if there is a difference between street to seat and active military, but we did confirm that the tentative local board we are targeting is the week of 6 August with the USAREC board in September.

Funny enough, my recruiter had another street to seat guy that just recently went through. The recruiter said that he got the green light from the local board but the USAREC board initially denied him because of his GPA. While i was sitting in his office this afternoon the recruiter got a call saying the USAREC board accepted him on the second look.

I will say that for anyone who is still early on in the process, find a good recruiter. I really lucked out with the first one i went to go talk with. I am not the first WOFT packet he has done and he knows what is going on. Reading through a bunch of posts here from people who are getting the cold shoulder from recruiters, go find another one that wants to work with you. its makes a huge difference i think.

I am taking the AFAST tomorrow, back to studying!

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 15:07

I asked the WO recruiting team to clarify the board schedules as pertaining to civilian WOFT applicants. Here is their response:

Lucas,
You are correct as the only boards that are reflected on our website are for active duty personnel; however, WOFT boards usually run concurrent with our boards. You will need to see your local Army recruiter to obtain info on you board's schedule.
Good luck!


I know this leaves some to be desired but at least clarifies what the USAREC website board schedule means.

Also, I have asked my recruiter about a week ago. He could not get a straight answer from the battalion.

Why is there so much ambiguity for civilian applicants? (Apologies for the rhetorical question.)
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 15:32

I just got word from my recruiter on the next WOFT board! I couldn't be more excited. He forwarded the following message to me:


The WOFT board scheduled for 6 Aug 2012 has been cancelled due to lack of Board Ready packets. The next WOFT board will be on 10 Sep and the packet cutoff will be 4 Sep 2012. The adjusted September Board dates were addressed in previous e-mails but I just wanted to make sure to mention it again due to the cancelled board in August. As of now this is what we are looking at:


6 Aug 12 WOFT board: CANCELLED

17 Sep 12 WOFT board: CHANGED (New board date of 10 Sep 12)

Packet cutoff will be 4 Sep 12.


This may be specific to his battalion (I don't know). However, I think this helps squash some of the fears United just put in me about selection rates at 1 per state every other month. My chances seem a little better considering they couldn't even hold a board here because they didn't have enough packets.


Still would like to know how the SIFT will be implemented amoungst us civilians...


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Posted 24 July 2012 - 15:38

I just got word from my recruiter on the next WOFT board! I couldn't be more excited. He forwarded the following message to me:




This may be specific to his battalion (I don't know). However, I think this helps squash some of the fears United just put in me about selection rates at 1 per state every other month. My chances seem a little better considering they couldn't even hold a board here because they didn't have enough packets.


Still would like to know how the SIFT will be implemented amoungst us civilians...


Are these Battalion board or USAREC board dates?

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 17:56

Hahah Sir, I apologize! That 1 per state was hearsay from a few years ago so take it with a grain of salt. Thats great news! I'm gonna guess the sept board will have a high selection rate. Do you think January will have a low selection rate since it'll have all the packets from Oct-Jan? Sir, your stats are rock solid so I dont think it matters when you submit it, worrying about timing is for mediocre applicants like myself.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 21:04

Lindsey,


Going back and re-reading the email I posted from USAREC I am beginning to think USAREC actually has very little to do with us getting selected. He said "WOFT boards usually run concurrent with our boards." Why would he say that? This statement clearly shows a distinct differentiation between AD and Civ boards. It appears the process is completely different.

I know this comes off a little self-centered, but I am glad to know the board date I am going to be on. It’s has been a little un-nerving working to an arbitrary point in time. Now I have a goal, let's do this thing!

Do as he said. Ask your recruiter to get your board dates. If he doesn't, go to the station commander and so on until you get what you need.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 21:17

United,

You flatter me sir. I pray the board sees me the same way...

I wouldn't say mediocre. Do you have something in your packet you wish wasn't there? Sure, but the same is true for most applicants. We all have an area that could be improved. Most importantly though is you are driven. Push hard, and keep on going. Make sure you packet reflects this and it will help offset a big negative. If you can show you are able to overcome adversity with maturity you would be highly desirable.
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 23:02

I do have to say after reading all this about board dates is the Guard does things totally different. Not only do you get the experience of being enlisted, but for the most part you also get the feeling of what being a NCO is all about. Most of the Guard that gets picked up to go into IERW are NCO's so we get an idea of how to operate in the military already. The process that I am going through right now (I'm at the SAO Interview, with a class date penciled in for Oct/Nov) has some different steps.
-Interview with the company commander that you want to go to
-Board interview with 4 of the company's WO's
-Flight Physical
-Battalion Commander Interview
-State Aviation Officer Interview
-Federal Recognition Inteview

The last 3 interviews are easy compared to the WO interview. They are the gate keepers and if they don't like you, time to look somewhere else. All those interviews are setup when they need to be so you don't have to worry about the dates you are all talking about.

Didn't mean to hijack the thread, but I didn't know if anyone might be interested in this

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 21:41

I talked with my recruiter today and was told the Battalion board is scheduled for 28 August and my packet needs to be submitted by 22 August!

Flight physical is Monday and that is the last big piece of my packet before it goes in!

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 21:59

That's awesome! Hope it works out and you're in on the 22th. Tell the doc at the end of your physical you are trying to meet that date and see if he will expidite your paperwork to Rucker.
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Posted 25 July 2012 - 23:17

I just got word from my recruiter on the next WOFT board! I couldn't be more excited. He forwarded the following message to me:




This may be specific to his battalion (I don't know). However, I think this helps squash some of the fears United just put in me about selection rates at 1 per state every other month. My chances seem a little better considering they couldn't even hold a board here because they didn't have enough packets.


Still would like to know how the SIFT will be implemented amoungst us civilians...



I just got the same info and will be submitting in September as well. Hopefully we don't get hurt due to the increase number of applicants since August was cancelled, competition will be higher.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 06:50

I just got the same info and will be submitting in September as well. Hopefully we don't get hurt due to the increase number of applicants since August was cancelled, competition will be higher.


I had the same thought, but then dismissed it because the board was cancelled due to lack of applicants. Trying to stay positive.
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 07:20

Never fly the A model of anything. I would not want to be on that first board :lol:


Amen, brother!

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 19:29

To my knowledge civilians and military personnel from all branches can apply for 153A positions in the Army. How many packets they accept and what the selection rate is I don't know, but I know several pilots that started their careers in the "High School to Flight School" program (civilian WOC selection).

Board Ready means that your packet is complete, ready for the board to review it, and submitted to USAREC.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 19:33

Oh, another tip: the SIFT test is going to be based very largely on the Navy's pilot selection test. If you want to bone up for the SIFT, it may be a good idea to get the ARCO book and study the Navy and Marine Corps selection test portions, you may find many of the same or similar questions on the SIFT.

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 23:05

Got some inside scoop on SIFT progress. It appears that it will NOT be ready for implementation by the October boards. This coming from the testing center at JBLM, WA. Take your AFAST and submit your packets NOW. Don't worry about SIFT and don't worry about the October cutoff. This is your opportunity to bypass this big ? of a test.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 15:55

Any more recent confirmed news? I was hoping for a September battalion board to have a board ready packet by Oct 1, but apparently my recruiter can't make that happen.

Edited by 01CelicaGTS, 05 September 2012 - 16:35.

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 16:05

I haven't heard anything.

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Posted 16 September 2012 - 12:27

Has anyone picked up a study guide for the Navy ASTB to study for the SIFT? I'm about to grab an ARCO one. Just wondering if anyone has seen something better. Only thing I'm staying away from is Barron's, considering their train wreck of an AFAST section.
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Posted 16 September 2012 - 13:34

Uhhh...looking at Amazon, the ARCO book is going for over $100?! I used to have this book until I sent it to another VR member when I was done. Anyone want to send me theirs, if they have it? I cannot believe the price has skyrocketed. The other books all have poor reviews (Peterson's, Barrons, etc).




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