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#601 steve0

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 17:51

I will never understand scoring on the SIFT, not completing 2 sections and a known wrong answer and still a perfect score....


The only correlation I have noticed has been the perceived difficulty in comparison to score.

The more someone says "This section and that section were really easy", the more likely it was they score closer to a 40. Then everyone who scored over 70 says the math and reading were really tough.
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#602 kschwar

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 17:52

I took the SIFT today as well. Mine was a little more painful than most simply because the people at my MEPs first told me it was 1st and 3rd Wednesday and then got me locked out of the test for more than an hour after the Army Aviation Section. I really wish I could retake the 2nd half because the general idiocy of it had me fuming.

 

Simple Figures

 

I double-clicked a few times but got to 97.

 

Hidden Figures

 

This was definitely the hardest section for me. I got to 20/50 but I am pretty sure I got every single one of the ones I did right.

 

Spatial Orientation

 

The pictures were slightly worse than the ones I practiced with but as long as you knock out wrong answers and follow the rules the study guide teaches you, it's not hard.

 

Army Aviation

 

This one was a bit easier than I thought it would be. I am definitely glad I read the FAA book but there was not one question about Bernouli or Venturi which I found really odd (know it anyway). Know  specific US Army helicopters and their role. I'd also know anything that could affect pilots ability to perform.

 

Reading Comprehension

 

Unnecessarily convoluted. Read carefully and apply the process of elimination

 

Math Knowledge

 

I thought I would be okay here but the section ended much quicker than I thought it would. I may have accidentally hit a wrong answer after I thought the page was stuck. I kept getting hit with exponent questions so know how those work I guess.

 

They had all the geometry formulas provided but I would not rely on that.

 

Mechanical Knowledge

 

Understand simple machines, Newton's Laws, and centrifugal force. It was not that bad.

 

Score: 59

 

Thanks for the help everyone as I have been lurking these posts since August!

 

 



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Posted 04 October 2016 - 20:23

My guess is that there's more than one way to get a "perfect' score on this test. It's not linear. It's a selection instrument and weights several factors to determine your "score". 


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#604 Seminole

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 10:14

Just tested. I appreciated the after action reports on here so time to give my own.

Simple drawings: Easy, but didnt finish all 100 as I thought I could. Likely made it to the high 80s low 90s before timed out. Know for a fact I mis-clicked only one wrong answer.

Hidden figures: Easier than anticipated, but still struggled with time. 21/50 completed with 2 educated guesses to keep moving. Had the same 5 shapes for my questions.

Aviation: Easy after moderately thorough reading of the FAA handbook. Had to guess on a question about airspace and a few about night flying that I neglected to read about. Overall easy content when concerning aerodynamics and flight controls.

Spacial apperception: To quote someone on this board, laughably bad image quality Not hard, used all the extra time to double check answers.

Reading comp: English is a strength of mine. This was harder than anticipated, but not terrible.

Math: Abysmal, I got smoked. Concepts I recognized, but applied in more complex manners than I was able to work through. Confidently answered 2-3 questions at best. Many educated guesses, answered maybe 10-12 questions total before running out of time. Logs, complex fractional exponents, and geometry gave me trouble. Very few classic algebraic equations.

Mechanical comp: For me this was also tough. Some questions involved calculations that required knowledge of units (Joules, gravity) which caught me off guard. Questions on metallurgy and electronics which I was unfamiliar with. Lots of deduction, logic, and instinct was used in this subtest. Again ran out of time, was not booted.

Score: 64

Overall takeaways: The general idea I have seen conveyed on this board is many who find the test difficult do relatively well. This was my experience. By the end of the test I was very surprised to see my score. I knew I would at least pass, but thought I had blown it as far as a solid score was concerned.

I feel I really could have done more in my preparation to get a higher score. I studied for a month in May and for the last week, most of which was centered in the FAA handbook. All in all I am happy with my score and happy to be finished with this hurdle.

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Posted 10 November 2018 - 18:58

Overall it was difficult for me. But I still got selected with a 42 soft score so dont give up if you dont score great.
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Posted 17 December 2018 - 21:37

Anyone take it recently that want to share their experience or tips? I'm not sure if it changes with time or it gets updated. Will be taking it in about a month and would appreciate any new info or help!
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Posted 18 December 2018 - 09:17

I found the study guides were very helpful.

I wish I would have had a few hours flying prior to taking the test, I would have know several more answers.

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 10:46

Anyone take it recently that want to share their experience or tips? I'm not sure if it changes with time or it gets updated. Will be taking it in about a month and would appreciate any new info or help!

 

Study guides helped me quite a bit. If I'm being honest, I only studied for about 10 hours total and it was the day before the test. Bad idea, I know... but I scored a 63 and I was also selected on the November board and I'm swearing in tomorrow so I guess it worked out alright. I had quite a bit of aviation knowledge going in, albeit zero flight time. I'd say that would be a major thing to focus on if you don't have much. As for the hidden figures, spatial perception, and the other visual tests, practice using a study guide and being consistent. I found the math to be quite difficult, and I should have practiced it more.

 

Overall, the SIFT was a very difficult test. I made a poor choice in not studying more. I did well, but I wouldn't ever recommend doing what I did. I'm just a poor studier. Always have been. Thankfully, 4 years of aviation classes in High School helped me out quite a bit.

 

Here's a decent practice test I was using.

 

SIFT Practice Test — Trivium


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#609 redlightning54

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 11:36

One thing I practiced a lot was the math. I had the ASVAB for Dummies book just to refresh my math skills, and it ended up being a great tool for me. 

 

Anyone take it recently that want to share their experience or tips? I'm not sure if it changes with time or it gets updated. Will be taking it in about a month and would appreciate any new info or help!


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Posted 18 December 2018 - 15:36

I used a study guide from Amazon, but I think studying the first 4 chapters of the FAA rotocraft manual helped me more than the study guide as far as aviation knowledge goes.

 

The study guides definitely help prepare you for the sections that will be on the test, but the questions are usually quite different on the actual test. You will basically be studying for the "kinds" of question that will be on the test.


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#611 Jlopez13

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 17:18

Thanks for all the info! Especially the practice tests. Will definitely be using all those since i have not done math in many years and need a refresher hahaah



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Posted 21 December 2018 - 07:26

Just took the SIFT yesterday. Managed to wrangle out a 78 on the test. Definitely can attribute some of that score to a strong math background and 7 years as an enlisted AF flyer. But doing a month of study is what really helped me the most.

As Gage and others have said, having a good understanding of the first 4 chapters of either the FAA Rotorcraft flying manual or the FAA Helicopter flying manual are vital. I used the helo manual myself. Also know what helicopters the Army flies and what they do.

For other sections of the test, I picked up Peterson's Master the Military Flight Aptitude Test 9th edition from my base library. If you use this resource make sure it's a recent edition or the SIFT wont be covered. For the Simple Drawings, I focused on going as fast as I possibly could when studying and that benefited me. On the actual exam, I was able to complete all 100 questions, and I'm pretty sure I only incorrectly clicked 2. Hidden figures, I just practiced from the study book and tried to improve my speed. I don't think I even got half way through the questions on the test, like many others on this forum have experienced.

For all other subtests, the more you practice, the better you will do. I will say the math does get pretty intense, and the Peterson guide won't cut it if you're looking to ace that section.

YouTube is a pretty good resource if you want a better understanding of certain mathematical or mechanical concepts. It helped me brush up on some stuff I missed in the practice tests I took. As long as you put some effort into preparing for the test, you have nothing to worry about. While you're taking the exam, just remember to breathe haha Good luck!

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Posted 21 December 2018 - 07:32

I can relate with everything Seminole posted last month, so I dont think the test changes too much

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Posted 23 December 2018 - 10:53

Nsavage, I don't have the best grasp on math but I have been practicing on speed for hidden figures and simple drawings. I can finish simple drawings in the time allotted and only miss 1 or 2 just from going so fast. Hidden figures I can finish about 2/3 within the allotted time. My plan is to play to my strengths and get the easier ones done. Math I'm looking up on YouTube. Thanks for that tip! Spatial test I'm also practicing going as fast as I need to to complete it and it's improved a lot. Definitely feel worried about math but I'm hoping that working on the others will help carry that lower score.

I just took the FAA ATC aptitude test and got almost a perfect score and it had everything but helo knowledge ( I'm very familiar) and the type of math being used (they use math as a memory and awareness test). If you have any specific videos on YouTube for the math being tested, that would be great.

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Posted 23 December 2018 - 12:44

Nsavage, I don't have the best grasp on math but I have been practicing on speed for hidden figures and simple drawings. I can finish simple drawings in the time allotted and only miss 1 or 2 just from going so fast. Hidden figures I can finish about 2/3 within the allotted time. My plan is to play to my strengths and get the easier ones done. Math I'm looking up on YouTube. Thanks for that tip! Spatial test I'm also practicing going as fast as I need to to complete it and it's improved a lot. Definitely feel worried about math but I'm hoping that working on the others will help carry that lower score.

I just took the FAA ATC aptitude test and got almost a perfect score and it had everything but helo knowledge ( I'm very familiar) and the type of math being used (they use math as a memory and awareness test). If you have any specific videos on YouTube for the math being tested, that would be great.


Bro thats great and try hard but the computer you are gonna take it on is gonna give you one at a time and freeze a ton. Dont worry aboyt studying that. Spend most of your time on math. If you arent a good reader that too. Read the faa handbook first couple chapters and know aviation knowledge. If you are doing well the math is going to be very hard. I was being asked "solve log5 of (this huge function)" and one explained base 2 and then had me solve a huge function and answer in base 4.

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Posted 24 December 2018 - 08:29

Tangowhiskey I'm definitely not ignoring math since I really suck Haha I'll do my best but if the computer sucks, there's not much to be done.  Thanks for the math example, I'm gonna look up similar problems and work on those. Hopefully it gets harder for me since that would mean I am getting them right! Thanks for all the tips.



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Posted 24 December 2018 - 11:33

Bro thats great and try hard but the computer you are gonna take it on is gonna give you one at a time and freeze a ton. Dont worry aboyt studying that. Spend most of your time on math. If you arent a good reader that too. Read the faa handbook first couple chapters and know aviation knowledge. If you are doing well the math is going to be very hard. I was being asked "solve log5 of (this huge function)" and one explained base 2 and then had me solve a huge function and answer in base 4.

This is point is important, doing the simple drawings on paper and doing them on a computer are very different, at least for me it was. Trivium Test Prep has sections on hidden figures and simple drawings, but you have to click enter after every choice. Still it will get you used to scanning on a computer. His point on math is correct, I did well on my ASVAB math and made the mistake of not putting in more time studying it. The minute log functions came up I had flashbacks to Algebra 3 and couldn't remember a single thing. That being said studying the math sections in ASVAB test books can give you an advantage if you are missing some fundamentals of algebra as the earlier questions resemble the problems given in the practices.



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Posted 08 January 2019 - 16:04

Did you learn of your results the same day?

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 17:11

Did you learn of your results the same day?

Yes, your score will appear immediately following the test.


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Posted 11 January 2019 - 10:20

Has anyone used this man's sets of videos? Are they super helpful?






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