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#1 Mofallon86

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 14:25

Hey everyone,

 

Just curious I guess. I have about two years left in the military before I start my training to be a helicopter pilot. Flying EMS is my dream job. 

 

From every picture I've seen of the HEMS aircrews, they are always clean shaven. Are there any operators that let you grow beards or do you have to be clean shaven?



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Posted 24 December 2013 - 20:06

Yeah you can have a beard. Just has to be kept clean and trimmed to not interfere with your PPE (N95 mask). 



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Posted 24 December 2013 - 22:53

Thanks for the info.



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Posted 27 December 2013 - 22:05

Air methods will, I've heard it's a no-no with PHI. Perhaps someone else can chime in to verify that.



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Posted 28 December 2013 - 08:44

I saw an AEL guy with a well groomed goatee.



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Posted 28 December 2013 - 09:41

Getting hired with facial hair and a "this is my facial hair" attitude might be a problem, even if the issue is not overt. If the clean-shaven competitor gets hired and you don't, were the whiskers worth it?

Yes,there is some facial hair at work, but it's remarkable...


Just a pilot (retired, so I have a LOT of time)...


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Posted 28 December 2013 - 19:27

I know it's not a huge deal, but after 9 years in the military it would be nice to have the option. I didn't know if there were any places that it was acceptable or not. Thanks for all of the info guys.



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Posted 29 December 2013 - 12:52

I know a pilot that showed up for an interview in running shoes, sweatpants, not groomed, wearing a cap , over weight and he got hired for a SPIFR position .... I guess once you have the hours, HR doesn't care much about your appearance.

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Posted 30 December 2013 - 23:31

Last year at HeliSuccess a friend asked an industry "old timer" (not to say he's old, just been in the business for a while) about his beard. His beard looked like something out of the movie "300."

 

The response?  "Everything looks professional on top, why doesn't the beard?"

 

Facial hair isn't looked down upon, for the most part, but it should look professional. Duck Dynasty or biker gang beards don't belong in this business, in my opinion.



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Posted 31 December 2013 - 02:07

I can agree with that. There is definitely a difference between professional looking and looking like Tom Hanks in Castaway.



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Posted 31 December 2013 - 03:16

Some people look better with well groomed facial hair..... Just be and look professional. Maintain that professionalism until you feel you can get a job in your pajamas...... But then still be professional because THAT'S WHAT YOU SIGNED UP TO BE,!
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Posted 15 January 2014 - 12:14

I can definitely confirm PHI has a strict no beard policy. Trimmed mustaches are ok. They seem to have a very military minded regime in this sense. They make it very clear on this policy even when you submit your application you have to agree. Yea I moved on when I saw this, I didn't leave the military to join another quasi military group. To each his own though.

 

I get what you’re saying though I was in the military for 8 years too shaving every day and it’s nice to be a civilian now and work at a company where you do have that option!



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Posted 15 January 2014 - 22:57

I can definitely confirm PHI has a strict no beard policy. Trimmed mustaches are ok. They seem to have a very military minded regime in this sense. They make it very clear on this policy even when you submit your application you have to agree. Yea I moved on when I saw this, I didn't leave the military to join another quasi military group. To each his own though.

 

I get what you’re saying though I was in the military for 8 years too shaving every day and it’s nice to be a civilian now and work at a company where you do have that option!

 

That's exactly what I'm getting at. I understand that this is a professional industry and I will do whatever my company asks me to do. It's just nice to have choices.



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Posted 18 January 2014 - 21:02

Go the utility road, you can do what you want!  ;)


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Posted 18 January 2014 - 21:47

^you know you are a utility pilot when the locals mistake your for the town homeless guy.

Edited by Flying Pig, 18 January 2014 - 21:52.

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 01:48

I dont know too much about utility. I havent really looked into it.



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Posted 19 January 2014 - 12:20

I never understood why God gave us men (and some women) facial hair to distinguish us as men. Then we go work for some company or military that insists on us shaving it off to look like a woman.

I get the trimmed, and well kept look....but I don't get the shave it off so I look good in make up look.
Well that said, I am sure to make a few less friends but its how I feel. I personally keep mine trimmed short but always there.
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Posted 19 January 2014 - 21:52

When you don PPE with serious intentions, whether an N95 or a gas mask, you will appreciate not having facial hair interfering with the seal.


Just a pilot (retired, so I have a LOT of time)...


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Posted 19 January 2014 - 22:18

Ive personally never seen facial hair legitimately cause a seal issue with a mask.



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Posted 19 January 2014 - 22:27

I have worn respirators for years when painting...never had a seal issue yet.
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