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#21 helonorth

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Posted 20 January 2014 - 08:35

Yea I moved on when I saw this, I didn't leave the military to join another quasi military group. 

 

 

You may have been wise to do a little more research about PHI first.  Nothing military (quasi or otherwise) about PHI. It's a pretty easy-going place with very little bs. A lot of the offshore companies will not let you on their facility if you have a beard. That's where it comes from. 



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Posted 20 January 2014 - 23:40

When you don PPE with serious intentions, whether an N95 or a gas mask, you will appreciate not having facial hair interfering with the seal.

 

Pardon my ignorance, but why does an EMS pilot have to don an N95 mask?

 

N95's don't seal anyways, do they?



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Posted 21 January 2014 - 09:44

No they cant seal....but they can keep your lips warm on a chilly morning flight. Not that I have worn one while flying...just saying.

However for a warmer face, I would rather borrow my sons Darth vader helmet. Looks way cooler, and I dig the voice changing effect!
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#24 Wally

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 09:48

 

Pardon my ignorance, but why does an EMS pilot have to don an N95 mask?

 

N95's don't seal anyways, do they?

 

Communicable diseases, OSHA, I would guess? In 13 years, I've masked up a half a dozen times, once when the ambulance medics had their paper jammies on as well as gloves and masks. Even the volunteer firefighters gloved and masked up to help load.

All I know is that 'universal precautions' are an annually recurring subject and I have to be recertified every year with an N95. If they'll pay me time and mileage to do so, it's important to somebody who knows something.

 

WolftalonID-

N95 masks are also good for fogging up your glasses when you exhale. The program bought some with flapper exhaust valves 3 or 4 years ago to minimize that. I haven't had to mask up since....

 

The GoM guys should think about respirators, too- hydrogen sulfide is nasty stuff.


Edited by Wally, 21 January 2014 - 09:49.

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Just a pilot (retired, so I have a LOT of time)...


#25 helonorth

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 11:24

I almost forgot about the H2S. I had to do annual training, including mask fitting for it. I had a SCBA in the helicopter. It was required by the customer, not PHI. 



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Posted 22 January 2014 - 14:24

The H2S thing is bogus, IMO.  If they have H2S being released on the platform, I ain't landing, or even flying close to it.  I've been through a number of H2S classes, and had breathing apparatus installed under the seats of the aircraft so we could theoretically land and pick up the critters, but I told them then, and I'll tell them forever, I ain't landing or flying close.  The real danger of H2S when landing on a platform is that the engines can ingest it, and then you're in a real bind.  But the oil companies want to go through the drill, so we went through the drill.  But it's just eyewash, done entirely for show and for the lawyers.  I simply would never land, and I never knew of anyone else who would either.  It's stupid to even consider it.


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Posted 02 May 2014 - 00:07

In our operation you have to do an annual N95 mask fit test. This procedure ensures you get the proper fit and seal.  There are several manufacturers of N95 masks and several models from each manufacturer. It isn't a one size fits all situation.



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Posted 02 May 2014 - 08:22

I almost forgot about the H2S. I had to do annual training, including mask fitting for it. I had a SCBA in the helicopter. It was required by the customer, not PHI. 


Were you one of the boys in blue at phi? I flew one of their L4's that had the SCBA in it, they took it out after the overhaul.

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 08:44

I dont know too much about utility. I havent really looked into it.

 

 

Don't worry, once you start flying HEMS, you'll be looking into it soon enough.  :)


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Posted 02 May 2014 - 08:53

Were you one of the boys in blue at phi? I flew one of their L4's that had the SCBA in it, they took it out after the overhaul.

Never flew IHTI. It was for the for the Indian. I occasionally went to Mobile where all the H2S platforms were. 



#31 Pohi

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 09:12

Ooh, I gotcha.

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 18:50

I'll weigh in. I spent 29 years in the military and one of the first things SWMBO told me I just do is grow out my goatee. I liked it and how it looked; she liked it even better. I spent the first 4 years after the Army working as a contractor where facial hair was not forbidden but was definitely discourage, but it never cost me a thing on my annual evaluation reports. Then that job went away.

 

I looked for work. I looked for good companies to work for. I wanted a professional organization who trained and maintained their aircrews and maintenance. I wanted work that allowed me to remain in the same house as SWMBO and the kids. I wanted compensation that was fair for my experience and my expertise with good benefits and chance of advancement. Facial hair was and is way down on the list of my priorities. I shaved and went on interviews; because the job was more important than any rebelliousness that I felt. I hired into PHI and will shave because I placed all of the important factors ahead of my facial hair. I likely will not grow a mustache soon even though they are allowed.

 

Why do companies have a prejudice against facial hair? I honestly believe it goes back to social views. Prior to King Gillette introducing the safety razor and making them popular by giving them away for free to the Soldiers of WWI, many affluent people wore beards. Shaving was best done by a barber. Most people didn't like the time and effort it took to maintain a good edge on a straight razor (I know; I have two). There has not been a President of the US with a beard since Benjamin Harrison (1888-92) nor one with a mustache since Taft (1908-12). Gillette patented his razor in 1902; coincidence? Since the POTUS is the epitome of success... it only follows that everyone followed suit.

 

I do not like this prejudice; but I understand it. What you have to ask yourself is what is more important to you.


Edited by michael.scheller, 12 May 2014 - 18:52.


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Posted 27 May 2014 - 05:38

The general public for years have been inundated with images of the ten most wanted, bank robbers wearing facial hair disguises, foreign enemies wearing beards and on and on to where facial hair is seem by the public as shady, and trying to hide  a true identity. It's now part of the culture's psyche.



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Posted 01 December 2014 - 00:59

Depends on the company from what I have seen.  I worked for Metro for a while.  They were fine with neatly trimmed facial hair but the program manager was not.  Metro said to do it the way they want it done, no facial hair.  

Either way, as everyone has said, if you have facial hair, keep it neat and trimmed.  Look the part of the professional that you are.


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