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#1 TTF

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Posted 26 July 2004 - 19:38

I need to finish my commercial,CFI,etc. I live in Las Vegas and was considering finishing at Silver State helicopters. Does anyone have any experiance with them? Would be interested in hearing your experiances. Thanks

#2 Chickenhawk

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Posted 27 July 2004 - 01:11

TTF, I'm currently working for my CFI out in Boulder City, and I live in Vegas also. I dont think SilverState trains students unless they start from the ground up (contract). I definetly recommend Leading Edge Rotorcraft though, they have plenty of flight time usually, I fly about 3-4 times a week. Solomon Loop is the chief pilot/owner, and his rates are pretty reasonable compared to other schools. He's got 2 R44s and a Beta II with 150 hours on it. Schools number is 702-580-6703

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Posted 27 July 2004 - 05:07

Chicken hawk...whats he do with the 44s?
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Posted 27 July 2004 - 08:21

Chickenhawk, Thanks for the info.
How do you feel about the quality of training  at LER?


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Posted 27 July 2004 - 21:41

Jimbo, he always has something going it seems with the R44's whether its flight training, photo flights, filming, sightseeing tours, weddings, or shooting automatic weapons from the backseat at Frontsight (Gun Range).

TTF, I've been very satisfied with LERC, I've flown over a 100 hours in the last six months and just passed my commercial checkride earlier this month. Solomon is a very knowledgeable and down to earth instructor, and he should be, given that he and his wife are both A & Ps. He also does accelerated training if you had the time to do it that way, that's all on his website though at www.leadingedgerotorcraft.com


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Posted 27 July 2004 - 23:31

You know if he is hiring  :D
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Posted 28 July 2004 - 00:38

Hey Chickenhawk,

 I visited LERCS' website and noticed the pricing for the various training programs.I read the price for the 150 hour commercial program is $ 28,500....is that on top of the $11000 for the private..??

 If $28,500 is for the entire 150 hours that is the lowest rate i think i have seen for the comm helo license..!!!

....and you are impressed with the training..??...looks like it would be a good area of the counrty to train in...??!!

 R.P.M


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Posted 31 July 2004 - 21:59

Hey Chickenhawk, I know Solomon as well too, nice guy. I'm a Silver State student, but Im pretty sure they go from zero hour and up only. Chicken, stop by Henderson Executive Airport sometime, I'm behind the desk as the unicom. Name's Ed.
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Posted 01 April 2004 - 12:34

Whats up everyone?  I am currently enrolled to start flight training with SSH starting April 5.  I have never wanted anything more in my life than to become a helicopter pilot. I used to watch my father fast rope and jump out of these amazing machines since I was about 10 years old.  I couldn't get enough.  I have been addicited ever since.  Anyways, I was just wondering if my decision was correct in chosing SSH for flight school.  Don't get me wrong I have heard some great things about SSH but then turn right around and I hear some stuff that is also discouraging.  Anyways, what I really need is just some straight up honest feedback. Be blunt, I don't care.  If anyone has any info you can email me at oifmarine@hotmail.com or you can IM me at oifmarine2 or just post a feedback on this forum.  Thanks for the support and information.
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Posted 02 April 2004 - 11:24

I hear it is great if your a CFI but sucks if you are a student. CFI gets lots of hours and great pay. Students take almost 2 years just to get their CFI, and it does not matter how fast of a learner you are. It takes so long due to the program curriculum. Don't get me wrong here. I think SSH is a great school but the program takes forever to complete. For example ; somebody I know went and visited SSH and talked to some students, one students was so excited he/she could not wait he/she was about to get his/her PPL and had been there for 10.5 months and said that by this time next year I will have my CFI. My friend started at the school I'm at in Sept. and got his PPL in mid Jan. with only 48 hours total time. I started in mid Aug and received my PPL in mid Jan. with 97.5 hours total time. I'm not trying to dog SSH they have a great program but IMHO they drag out the ground and don't let you fly enough. Just my two cents. Good luck and have fun.

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#11 Robbie Driver

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Posted 02 April 2004 - 20:42

Check the NTSB.

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Posted 18 October 2004 - 13:27

Hello everyone,
I have been looking @ this site for about a week and finally joined. I have a few questions about Silver State Helicopters school. A buddy joined a few moths ago but I have looked around about the school and there seemed to be alot of people who do not like this school but never give any specfic reasons. I would like to hear all concerns with this school and if anyone here has finished this school how did you like it and do they really hire 98% of their students? It almost sounds to good to be true so I don't want to lay down $56,000 if they are not what they advertise. I don't mind spending the money but I expect to get what I pay for. If anyone has any other info on this business please let me know. I heard there is a shortage of pilots but also sounds to good to be true? Thanks in advance. Love this site


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Posted 18 October 2004 - 13:46

I have been following the SSH topic for a while but have no personal experience in dealing with them myself. From what I've gathered is either none of SSH's graduating students use the Internet to give some feed back or SSH hasn't had any graduating students.

About you putting down $56,000... Hold on, wait a minute.
Before you sign your name on any dotted line, read the loan agreement VERY carefully.
I took out a loan with Sallie Mea and  my payments are sent to the school in disbursements. This way if the school goes belly up, my unused money is secure and still with the Lending Bank.
Another good thing about disbursements is you don't have to pay the interested on the entire loan from the beginning. Interest is only accumulated on money pulled from your account.
Paying Interest on $56,000 for a year when lets say you only used $23,000 is ridiculous.

Do you have the loan details for SSH? I'd be interested in reading it.

AJ

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Posted 18 October 2004 - 14:03

The way I understand it you don't pay anything up front you start paying after 18 months after you sign up. They give up everything up front including headset. It is also broken into three sections so if you quit or fail say the first part of ground school you only have to pay that portion the further you go the more you pay if you quit or fail. the interest is about 4-5% on there site. My biggest concern is if the money wich includes turbine training am I going to be able to get a job. I am 31yrs old and have a wife and 3 kids. This is something I have always wanted to do but thats a lot of money.

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 17:10

My instructor, who is quite knowledgable about flight shools.  Has said that the staff (instructors and management)  are pretty big jerks, but I did not ask questions.  It is just hearsay, so others may have a different opinion.

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Posted 22 October 2004 - 08:19

Adding to unsubstantiated rumor, their business model is not sustainable (as previously posted on other threads).  AllJeep has good advice about the disbursement of funds and what protection you have.  Also, I have been told that some very respected and independant folks have been approached by officers from a few states Attorney General offices gathering information about Silver State.  I don't know if that means they are actively under investigation, if they are thinking about investigation, or none of the above.
Helicopter pilots have more "stick" control.

#17 CJ Eliassen

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Posted 22 October 2004 - 13:43

Why spend $56K when you could buy a share in an R-22 and get all your ratings for $20K?

Many operators refuse to hire Silverstate graduates.

You can expect to make less than $10,000 a year if hired by them.

You are being trained by low time instructors who were themselves by low time instructors and so fourth and so on...  Find an experienced instructor who understands your learning style and fly with them.  If you find a small operation, you are more likely to end up with a good job with them if you are a good student.

JMHO


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Posted 22 October 2004 - 17:25

Mr Eliasen,
Your information sources are not reliable.
May I ask whom these operators are? You are the only person to have made this claim, yet you refuse to elaborate.
Your failure to obtain employment with SSH explains your bias, but how do you explian your rediculously false statements?
Do you honestly believe that anyone employed by SSH makes less than $10,000? Minimum wage allows for greater prosperity. Our Instuctors begin at $18 per hour and top out at $25 per hour. These CFI's average about 30 hours per week. The lowest man on the totem-pole, whom we are very grateful for, provides us with clean restrooms and empty trash cans. This individual earns significantly more than $10,000 annually.
As far as being trained by low time instructors, this is true throughout the flight instruction industry. You, yourself are a low time pilot. Flight instruction is how we, as pilots, build hours.
Prior to your posts on this board, I may well have forgotten your name and your lack of professionalism displayed at your interview with us. I assure you that I will not overlook anyone in the industry thoughout my career whos name is even remotely similar to yours.
Respectfully,
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Posted 22 October 2004 - 19:01

I never applied at SSH, but I have seen your unethical ads suggesting that the average helicopter pilot makes over $100,000 a year.  Why don't you explain that math to us AO3? Is that the same math you use to determine that your instructors average over 30 hours week?  

I am glad to see you uped your instructors rates.  Last time I checked you were around $12 an hour.


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Posted 22 October 2004 - 20:58

There seems to be a great deal of interest in Silver State Helicopters, so I've consolidated several threads.  The "Silver State Helicopters" thread was moved from the "GENERAL HELICOPTER FORUM" to the "FLIGHT TRAINING" forum.  The "Silverstate experience" thread was also moved from the "GENERAL HELICOPTER FORUM" to the "FLIGHT TRAINING FORUM."  The following threads were merged into the current "Silver State Helicopters" thread:

"Silverstate experience"
"Information on Silver State Helicopters???"
"Silver State Helicopters, Am I the only one not making $100K?"
"Newbie with some questions?"

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