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#41 zVo

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 20:30

Don't forget commo, EO, SHARP, UMO, IMO, and MRT Trainer!

 

In my opinion, the absolute worst additional duty is supply -- and I've never been a supply officer... yet. ::knock on wood::


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Posted 04 June 2014 - 05:12

You are exactly right. Supply is an entire MOS, yet as a WOJG you get stuck with it.


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Posted 04 June 2014 - 08:05

I guess that is why people say if you want flight time, go to the airlines... If you want to look at helicopters, go to the Army! something like that...



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Posted 04 June 2014 - 08:09

I fly every day for the next week and a half.

 

Sometimes you get lucky.


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Posted 04 June 2014 - 14:26

Wtf does a NVG and FOD officer do?
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Posted 04 June 2014 - 14:42

Wtf does a NVG and FOD officer do?


NVG guy keeps track of all the goggles. Ensures that they're in a secure area, have all their pieces, all gripes are addressed, all scheduled maintenance is done, class given on their operation.

FOD guy ensures number of FOD boxes are sufficient on the flight line, empties boxes at the appropriate time, addresses any issues with excess FOD producers, schedules FOD walks, administers classes on FOD.

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 08:21

Obviously some additional duties are harder than others.  :lol:



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Posted 05 June 2014 - 08:41

So, what's the best duty for a new guy? I'm good at the fridge stuff, did that in corporate flying. Nvg would seem okay...

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 10:16

Fridge is pretty much mandatory for all WOJGs so you can count on that one.

 

It's hard to say which duties are the best.  Some of them don't involve a lot of work which gives you a lot of free time but on the flip side you're not learning or growing from them.  Others take up almost all your time but you learn so much that you grow beyond your peers quickly. 

 

Things like NVGs are simple but have a large impact on your unit so how you treat your duty reflects on your worth to the organization.  You want to be the guy that scrubs his equipment, inspects and replaces broken and missing stuff without having to be told about it, makes sure the services are done on time and knows to stagger them so you're never losing everything at once, organizes the closet and comes up with a good system for signing in/out, etc.   You DON'T want to be the guy that waits until the e-mails start getting sent about your equipment being due, that lets everyone throw their stuff in the closet in piles, that lets caps go missing and lets goggles get stuffed back in the case without being zeroed, that has the manuals missing, that doesn't keep spare lanyards and battery trays, that takes a long time to fix issues...

 

Any duty you get you should be trying to improve upon.  The last guy may have set you up with a great system but maybe it's not in accordance with regulation and would fail an inspection.  Maybe the last guy gave you a crappy system and it's your job to figure out how to make it work and start building the foundation.  Or it could really be a great program and all you need to do is learn about it so that you can keep performing on the same level.

 

The end state is showing your maturity and proving yourself as a good candidate for progression on the aviation side of things.  It doesn't matter how well you fly if you don't handle yourself as a professional in your additional duties, because that's what you're going to be judged on.


Edited by SBuzzkill, 05 June 2014 - 10:22.

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 12:33

Thanks for all this extra info, you guys(and girls :D) have been the single biggest source of information so I may prepare for WOFT.

 

Thank you!



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Posted 05 June 2014 - 13:20

Like Buzz said NVG is a good visibility duty. If your stuff is squared away it'll look good for an OER. Just like if it's a disaster it'll look bad on a OER as well. In my last unit our NVG guy was fired because the goggles were a mess. Got a new junior CW2 PI to take over and it was like night and day.

I didn't envy the supply guys but that's an additional duty that could easily get you a top block. Probably the most important additional duty out there. A lot of times those guys sacrifice flight hours to make sure our supply system was in good order.

Any duty you get, just make sure you've got a good pass down from the previous owner and a solid continuity binder. Try and make it better than it was before you got it and you'll do fine. Just don't let it affect your aviation studies.

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 14:35

Absolutely.  It's a challenge sometimes to keep your additional duties from distracting you from flying.  It's your job to prioritize tasks and use the time you have when you're not on the flight schedule as efficiently as possible.  You have to make those hard calls on whether or not you will be able to accomplish your mission with the time/resources you are given and come up with a solution if it's not going to work.



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Posted 05 June 2014 - 20:06

If you're the new WOJG and some CW2 tries talking you into taking his duty because "it will look good on your OERs" or some other such nonsense, run far away. He's not looking out for your OERs.


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Posted 06 June 2014 - 14:02

So back to the thread topic: did anyone else see the new Recall to Active Duty MILPER?  Looks like the army is seeking CW2/CW3 from the reserves to come back on active duty.  I saw 152H but there were other MOS's as well.  This must be HRC's way to replace the 58D pilots on the cheap. 



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Posted 06 June 2014 - 22:09

Oh you mean active duty doesn't have enough 64 pilots for all those aircraft they want to "steal" from NG? Hmmmm typical cart before the horse army I know.
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Posted 07 June 2014 - 15:35

I know it's the Army Times and all, but...

 

'Panel to Screen Hundreds of Kiowa Pilots'

 

... hmmm.


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Posted 07 June 2014 - 18:33

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Edited by SBuzzkill, 07 June 2014 - 18:48.


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Posted 07 June 2014 - 20:42

Cliffs notes: "Don't worry, this board isn't about who we want to get rid of, it's about who we want to keep."



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Posted 08 June 2014 - 13:43

Cliffs notes: "Don't worry, this board isn't about who we want to get rid of, it's about who we want to keep."

 

In other words, pack yer sh*t and gtfo.  The army would be amusing if the mission weren't so important. 



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Posted 11 June 2014 - 05:00

Cliffs notes: "Don't worry, this board isn't about who we want to get rid of, it's about who we want to keep."

 

Yea. I like the double speak. The board does what all boards do. Retain people. The Army managed a way to reduce CWO ranks and ditch an aircraft, all at the same time.

 

And it will f*ck over good dudes, like it always does.






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