AndrewD Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Hello everyone,Im an Air Force guy trying to go WO. I don't know if anyone else is Air Force in here. Age: 31GT (conversion): 115SIFT: 47APFT: 271Civilian Education: A.A. in Air and Space Operations Technology from the Community College of the Air Force (3.0 GPA) B.S in Information Computer Science/Networking Security From Park University (108 credits Proj Aug 15 Grad date 2.5 GPA) Military Education: Airman Leadership School(PME), SERE S-V80-A Combat survival, SERE S-V90-A Water survival Non- Parachute, SERE S-V83-A (EQQ) Flight Physical: Complete and stampedConditional release: Approved Flight Experience: 1300+ hours on an E-8C, 90+ Combat Missions, 900+ combat HoursLOR's: CW4 CH-47, O4 Air Battle Manager, O5 NavigatorMilitary Experience: 12 years TIS Active Duty AF, 1 years TIG as a Technical Sergeant (E6) MOS's: Comm, Air Traffic Controller, Senior Surveillance Manager Waiver: AFSOther: 1 Iraq, 1 Kuwait, 3 QatarI'm AD AF and I know there's quite a few others on this forum as well. Were you able to get your packet in for the Jan board? I'm still waiting on an approved release from AFPC so it looks like I'll have to wait until May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AF2WO Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 It seems to me that you have a really good packet. Good luck! Thanks a lot. I did some reading and looked at people who got picked up and I didn't feel very confident. The CW4 told me not to worry about anything. That I have done a lot in my 12 years. Maybe being an Aviator with my hours and a prior Air Traffic Controller will help me out. I submitted my Package about an hour ago. 2 of my emails were at 6MB though , I QCed them prior to sending them and they all said 1MB lower. I don't know what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AF2WO Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 J-STARS? That's a nifty piece of kit right there. LOL I didn't know someone would know the platform I flew on. Guess you had a bad experience with a not so great crew trying to help a bit too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AF2WO Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 I'm AD AF and I know there's quite a few others on this forum as well. Were you able to get your packet in for the Jan board? I'm still waiting on an approved release from AFPC so it looks like I'll have to wait until May. I just submitted it today. I checked it the other day, and it said Approved. Wing CC Approved it a while ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airman_gone_soldier Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 LOL I didn't know someone would know the platform I flew on. Guess you had a bad experience with a not so great crew trying to help a bit too much. I had some some close calls with JSTAR pilots... As a KC 135 boom operator for 6yrs I had 3 legitimate "break-aways" with that airframe... Uhg, gives me the willies thinkin about it... haha Good luck to you, and hope to see you one day at Ft Rucker! Ill start my drive to WOCS on March 9th for class 15-013 =D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AF2WO Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 I had some some close calls with JSTAR pilots... As a KC 135 boom operator for 6yrs I had 3 legitimate "break-aways" with that airframe... Uhg, gives me the willies thinkin about it... haha Good luck to you, and hope to see you one day at Ft Rucker! Ill start my drive to WOCS on March 9th for class 15-013 =D Some pilots are good and others not so much. I have learned this in the past 4 years since I have been a flyer. It sucks that they don't train up with heavy A/R just 1k there and 5k there. Hit me up on face book so we can talk. so I can pick your brain and compare packages.send me a PM with your info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phrogs4ever Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Just wanted to give a big thanks to Phrogs4ever for the last minute assistance. If all goes well, you'll be getting the first round on me! Hell, I'll buy all night!Thanks buddy, but we can celebrate after this hurdle is cleared!! LolThen again when we get selected! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFoski Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Well... Received the official phone call yesterday morning, FQ-NS for the NOV civilian selection board. I'm not going to lie, it sucked. Time to get over it and drive on. All those applicants in NOV board definitely deserved it, especially Jeffinpa. JAN board isn't that far away so I may be able to slightly improve my packet, but nothing too drastic. Age: 27GT: 117SIFT: 48APFT: 289Education: 3.0 GPA 42 credits towards criminal justice degreeWaiver: LASIK and kidney surgeryLOR: former CO Major Civil Affairs, retired CW5, retired CSM, retired SF SFC, former PL Captain, civilian law enforcement Captain.Board: 74/75Other info: Prior service Army, 6yrs TIS 2yrs TIG E5. 5 years civilian law enforcement, street crimes narcotics interdiction, field training officer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsey Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Well... Received the official phone call yesterday morning, FQ-NS for the NOV civilian selection board. I'm not going to lie, it sucked. Time to get over it and drive on. All those applicants in NOV board definitely deserved it, especially Jeffinpa. JAN board isn't that far away so I may be able to slightly improve my packet, but nothing too drastic. Age: 27GT: 117SIFT: 48APFT: 289Education: 3.0 GPA 42 credits towards criminal justice degreeWaiver: LASIK and kidney surgeryLOR: former CO Major Civil Affairs, retired CW5, retired CSM, retired SF SFC, former PL Captain, civilian law enforcement Captain.Board: 74/75Other info: Prior service Army, 6yrs TIS 2yrs TIG E5. 5 years civilian law enforcement, street crimes narcotics interdiction, field training officer. Send your documents over to me (lindsey.kanno@gmail.com) including LORs, resume, and essay, and I'll try to take a look at it this weekend. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCav19D Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Well... Received the official phone call yesterday morning, FQ-NS for the NOV civilian selection board. I'm not going to lie, it sucked. Time to get over it and drive on. All those applicants in NOV board definitely deserved it, especially Jeffinpa. JAN board isn't that far away so I may be able to slightly improve my packet, but nothing too drastic. Age: 27GT: 117SIFT: 48APFT: 289Education: 3.0 GPA 42 credits towards criminal justice degreeWaiver: LASIK and kidney surgeryLOR: former CO Major Civil Affairs, retired CW5, retired CSM, retired SF SFC, former PL Captain, civilian law enforcement Captain.Board: 74/75Other info: Prior service Army, 6yrs TIS 2yrs TIG E5. 5 years civilian law enforcement, street crimes narcotics interdiction, field training officer.Keep your chin up and keep driving on. You'll get there. Are you applying in service or street to seat? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creep0321 Posted November 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 I am assuming street to seat, since the in-service NOV board was cancelled, and he was looked at. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFoski Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Keep your chin up and keep driving on. You'll get there. Are you applying in service or street to seat?Street to seat. Honestly, wish I applied a long time ago. Where's Doc Brown when you need him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCav19D Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Street to seat. Honestly, wish I applied a long time ago. Where's Doc Brown when you need him?Amen! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck0321 Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Can anyone confirm/deny that the Package Deadline is more like a guideline and not an actual deadline. My final LOR has been delayed and I will not be submitting today. I spoke with a recruiter, CW3 Roit, and he told me that it's "preferred" because many packages get kicked back for paperwork/clerical errors.I guess regardless, as soon as the letter is in hand, I'm submitting. I just need a little sunshine (not blown up my a$$, thank you. Recruiters do that enough) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFoski Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 Can anyone confirm/deny that the Package Deadline is more like a guideline and not an actual deadline. My final LOR has been delayed and I will not be submitting today. I spoke with a recruiter, CW3 Roit, and he told me that it's "preferred" because many packages get kicked back for paperwork/clerical errors.I guess regardless, as soon as the letter is in hand, I'm submitting. I just need a little sunshine (not blown up my a$$, thank you. Recruiters do that enough)That deadline posted on USAREC is for active duty. Civilians can submit 10 business days prior to selection board. Don't quote me but it's around there. I do know the guy who handles the WOFT packets is a really reasonable MSGT. So I'm sure he's willing to work with you if your packet misses the posted deadline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adnoh61B Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 Not the greatest but..... Age: 30GT/AFQT: 110SIFT: 60APFT: 256Civilian Education: Military Education: WLC Commandants List, 850 hrs ACC (not that anyone looks at those anymore)Flight Physical: Complete and stampedFlight Experience: NoneLOR's: CW4 (SOAR),O-5 (BC), O-3 (CC)Military Experience: 7.5 years TIS Active Duty Army, 4 years TIG as a Sergeant (Battle Field Promotion), Communications NCO, Navigations NCO, Security NCO, Platoon Sergeant of 53 Soldier Platoon, etc....Waiver: NoneOther: 1 Iraq and 1 Afghanistan deploymentGetting another LOR from one of my old CW4's that isn't aviation. Thoughts? Will it help even though he isn't an aviator. My thoughts are, "the more, the merrier" LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsey Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 Getting another LOR from one of my old CW4's that isn't aviation. Thoughts? Will it help even though he isn't an aviator. My thoughts are, "the more, the merrier" LOL.No. The more is NOT the merrier. Listen up. The board only gets 90 seconds to 2 minutes to look at your ENTIRE packet. The emphasis is on QUALITY. If they pick one LOR *at random* then it had better be f*cking phenomal. They may only have time to read the first or last paragraph of whichever LOR they pick. The more is not the merrier. You want only phenomenal LORs to be available for them the choose from; they will not be able to read all of them. If you have a choice between 3 and 6 letters, pick 3 that shine. 6 is superfluous. If you would like, I would be happy to look over the LORs you have and give my personal opinion on their potential. Stearmann4 gave me this advice several years ago and it works. He has sat on boards and he knows. Heed the above and use it. Best of luck. LindseyLindsey.kanno@gmail.com 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adnoh61B Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 No. The more is NOT the merrier. Listen up. The board only gets 90 seconds to 2 minutes to look at your ENTIRE packet. The emphasis is on QUALITY. If they pick one LOR *at random* then it had better be f*cking phenomal. They may only have time to read the first or last paragraph of whichever LOR they pick. The more is not the merrier. You want only phenomenal LORs to be available for them the choose from; they will not be able to read all of them. If you have a choice between 3 and 6 letters, pick 3 that shine. 6 is superfluous. If you would like, I would be happy to look over the LORs you have and give my personal opinion on their potential. Stearmann4 gave me this advice several years ago and it works. He has sat on boards and he knows. Heed the above and use it. Best of luck. LindseyLindsey.kanno@gmail.comThanks for your input Lindsey. Once I receive the LOR from the second source I will email them to you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejones Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 No. The more is NOT the merrier. Listen up. The board only gets 90 seconds to 2 minutes to look at your ENTIRE packet. The emphasis is on QUALITY. If they pick one LOR *at random* then it had better be f*cking phenomal. They may only have time to read the first or last paragraph of whichever LOR they pick. The more is not the merrier. You want only phenomenal LORs to be available for them the choose from; they will not be able to read all of them. If you have a choice between 3 and 6 letters, pick 3 that shine. 6 is superfluous. If you would like, I would be happy to look over the LORs you have and give my personal opinion on their potential. Stearmann4 gave me this advice several years ago and it works. He has sat on boards and he knows. Heed the above and use it. Best of luck. LindseyLindsey.kanno@gmail.com This is a great piece of information, thanks Lindsey. I'll be going over my LOR's now to decide which ones are truly worth while. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AF2WO Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 This is a great piece of information, thanks Lindsey. I'll be going over my LOR's now to decide which ones are truly worth while. I would think that they would read every Senior WO LOR and then read one random one or skim through a random one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCav19D Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 LOL I didn't know someone would know the platform I flew on. Guess you had a bad experience with a not so great crew trying to help a bit too much.Not at all. That's a big ass tank finding radar in the sky. I hate tanks and I love to blow em up. Anyone that helps me find said tanks is cool in my book. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AF2WO Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 Not at all. That's a big ass tank finding radar in the sky. I hate tanks and I love to blow em up. Anyone that helps me find said tanks is cool in my book. Im glad we can help you guys out. im in charge of that section on the jet. we can find more than that. I hope that we both can make it through this Jan board so I can meet you guys. I have to stop at BCT as an E-6 first if I get accepted but it will be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCav19D Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 You're joking. They're making you do BCT again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AF2WO Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 You're joking. They're making you do BCT again? Im an Air Force guy. So if I get accepted I have to do BCT. No worries, It will be a little different for me since I am a prior service E-6. I read the reg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCav19D Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 Weird... In my time I've worked with prior AF, USMC, even bloody submariners... I don't recall them going through BCT. Maybe they repressed the memory, or perhaps I wasn't listening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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