Tradewinds Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Look at any units Official Facebook page and you can tell right away the number assigned, how many troops and the number in those troops, heck they even show their names. Not to mention where they happen to be whether a Rotation to Korea or at NTC or training in Alaska. They even say which troops are where. Not sure showing a list of which duty stations were handed out spills many beans that are not already all over the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apacheguy Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 How come no Campbell? That used to be the busiest place in the Army. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsey Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Lindsey, You really need to stop posting list like that. You are basically putting out the Army manning priorities. Deleted. Understood and noted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsey Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Look at any units Official Facebook page and you can tell right away the number assigned, how many troops and the number in those troops, heck they even show their names. Not to mention where they happen to be whether a Rotation to Korea or at NTC or training in Alaska. They even say which troops are where. Not sure showing a list of which duty stations were handed out spills many beans that are not already all over the floor. Eh, I see his point. It's already out there on other sources, but why make it easier. You never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnus017 Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Lindsey, You really need to stop posting list like that. You are basically putting out the Army manning priorities.No dude. Lists like that are not labeled sensitive/confidential/etc. S-2 doesn't care if a manning priority is put in a forum. In fact, HRC has the same list up on it's website of manning priorities. Don't go jumping on Lindsey for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brackac Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 No dude. Lists like that are not labeled sensitive/confidential/etc. S-2 doesn't care if a manning priority is put in a forum. In fact, HRC has the same list up on it's website of manning priorities. Don't go jumping on Lindsey for nothing.Duty rosters, duty status reports, and every other manning document may not be labeled sensitive/classified, but they are not to be released outside of the unit. That's basic knowledge. Just because you see it on Facebook, doesn't make it right. In regards to HRC, show me an up to date list of by person manning/promotion/etc etc that doesn't require a CAC card. I'm not claiming to be perfect here. I had to delete a post a few months back after another poster here notified me of the context in a post of mine falling in the OPSEC category. It happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TachedOutOffRoad Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 I see where you're coming from, but damn, the whole atrrs course catalogue is open source. And yellow ribbon ceremonies/ going away stuff makes the news. I also didnt see what she posted exactly, but where a few pilots are going seems minor. But every bit matters too. Just late night ramblings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcropper Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Selection today: 1-AH644-UH601-C120-CH47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnus017 Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Did everyone get their first or second choice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcropper Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 I heard a few were second choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkerman180 Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Why is it that 47's almost always seem to be slim-pickins? Needs of the Army... OK yea got it, but what is y'alls speculation as to the low need? Is it not enough spots in the 47 course because it's too expensive, or do 47 pilots tend to fly longer and thus spots don't open up often, or is it simply a smaller force of 47's in comparison to the other birds? I know it's probably a combination of these and probably more factors but does anyone have insight on the matter in more detail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcropper Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Yeah it is crazy. You see so many 47s always sitting around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apacheguy Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Just because you see it on Facebook, doesn't make it right. In regards to HRC, show me an up to date list of by person manning/promotion/etc etc that doesn't require a CAC card. Promotion lists are open source but I agree with your point (the new O5 and O6 lists that just came out for example). It's definitely better to err on the side of caution when it comes to classified or potentially classified as Hillary is finding out lately. Do yourself a favor and get into the habit of handling classified material properly and don't screw around on SIPR either; losing your clearance for something goofy happens all too frequently these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay3 Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 The possibility of 47s being low could be from the drawback of the 58s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 The 47 is the smallest community. Smallest schoolhouse. Lots of guard and reserve to fill slots. We are undermanned. Slowly AQC and AQT are getting KW guys over here. And for sitting around? Uh. Most requested lift asset. I flew 450 hours last year. And that wasn't in AFG. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcropper Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 I didn't mean this post to seem like 47s are lazy, I'm saying that there are a lot of aircraft and not enough pilots to keep them in the air Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 That part is true. And we are lazy. Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UH60L-IP Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Look at any units Official Facebook page and you can tell right away the number assigned, how many troops and the number in those troops, heck they even show their names. Not to mention where they happen to be whether a Rotation to Korea or at NTC or training in Alaska. They even say which troops are where. Not sure showing a list of which duty stations were handed out spills many beans that are not already all over the floor. I agree. When I was deployed to Afghanistan they preached OpSec prior to the deployment. We had to take classes, etc. We were instructed to keep the information close. It was to protect us and our families. After all, it's obvious that you shouldn't announce that you are going to be gone for a year, and where, while your dependent spouse and kids are left home. The day I arrive in country our Brigade posts a picture of us getting off the C141, posting the location, unit name, home base, and a close up of my ugly mug with a caption along the lines of "1st day of a year in Bagram, Afghanistan." There was, and still is, a Facebook page with our unit name along with literally hundreds of pictures that were posted in near real time along with names. Heck, promotions were posted so people even knew our ranks. Of course family members, including the BN commanders wife, use their real names to comment, tagging friends who may not even know they're on Facebook. Let's be real here. The Army does not have one ounce of concern about OpSec. If they did we wouldn't have an endless stream of social media websites, open source unit pages, letters from company, battalion, and brigade commanders online, etc. Give me a unit name and in 30 minutes I'll have pages and pages of info, including personal info and pictures. That's without really trying. I try to maintain some semblance of OpSec for my own personal life. Unfortunately, the Army does not practice what they preach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamer Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 That part is true. And we are lazy. HahaI sat in an RT today, and watched a 47 hook up and hoist a block for a terrain flight traffic pattern. LITERALLY the most boring this I've ever seen in my life... Is that what the 47 community has for their claim to fame? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TachedOutOffRoad Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 I sat in an RT today, and watched a 47 hook up and hoist a block for a terrain flight traffic pattern. LITERALLY the most boring this I've ever seen in my life... Is that what the 47 community has for their claim to fame? Doing slings is fun. Real helicopter work. Air assaults at 9k feet is the claim to fame.Slingloading busted 64s is claim to fame. Carrying a fully staffed medical crew and all supplies in the back is claim to fame. Dropping 25 HALO jumpers out of the back is claim to fame.Vh is claim to fame. I was infantry for many years and enjoy guns as much as the next guy. When cargo/lift is flying x2 hours what you are and flying real stateside missions while you sit on the ramp, you'll get it. Life is not always a dick measuring competition with lift like it seems to be with guns. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamer Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Jeez, touchy touchy... I wasn't picking an airframe fight, I was just wondering... I'm well aware every airframe has their necessity. I'm just saying I had all this awesome build up of excitement to actually see a sling load happen in person and it was sadly anti-climactic... I laughed at Vh claim to fame though... That was a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 People. If you are still in flight school, or an RL3 PI at your first duty station, stop talking sh*t. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TachedOutOffRoad Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 I'm neither. I just like slings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_P148 Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 I sat in an RT today, and watched a 47 hook up and hoist a block for a terrain flight traffic pattern. LITERALLY the most boring this I've ever seen in my life... Is that what the 47 community has for their claim to fame?Last time I checked, 47s were landing to the X spitting out 20-30 pipe hitters in the middle of the night in a godforsaKen place no one has heard of. The 64 guy was miles away in a 2,000 foot orbit as back up to the back up CAS waiting for permission from the controller to get off station. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creep0321 Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Dropping 25 HALO jumpers out of the back is claim to fame. Now that's a good time. I loved jumping the 47's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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