Tesla Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 I can only go to Cambell or Knox. I'm in Indiana so they're closest. Fort Leonard Wood flat out told my recruiter they wouldn't schedule me. I was initially supposed to go to Leonard Wood, but went to Riley after LW said no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOFThopefulAH64D Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 I am in Nashville, ft Campbell won't do flight physicals for civilian applicants. We have to take our apps to Red Stone arsenal... It's in Alabama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCav19D Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Did you contact TMC 5 at Campbell, or just the health clinic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantankerously Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 I am in Nashville, ft Campbell won't do flight physicals for civilian applicants. We have to take our apps to Red Stone arsenal... It's in Alabama.Might as well just come to Rucker and be done with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOFThopefulAH64D Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 I hear they are taking walk-ons at WOCS lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nics42 Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 At the moment I'm number 5 on the waiting list at Ft. Knox. Doctor only comes through once a month and he only takes a few applocants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Won2Be Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 Oh what the hell (I was avoiding posting stats; superstitious...) Age: 31AFQT/GT: 99/135SIFT: 75APFT: Taking tuesday. doing about a 250-260 right now...stupid situps...Civilian Education: BSN (nursing)Flight Physical: Complete and waiver free (waiting on rucker stamp, should be this week)Flight Experience: 10.9 hours helicopterLOR's: College prof, Army Capt. Recruiting commander (friend), fellow RN colleague. Just could NOT get a local WO on the darn phone! Gerr....mumble grumble...Waiver: NoneOccupation: Registered nurse of 7 years.Other: CCRN certified. I'm still not clear on this whole thing....so does USAREC have a separate board after battalion for us "long hairs"? I was under the assumption that the battalion level board is sort of a "screening" and the final decision is USAREC (in this case, that would mean monthly board still happens and the USAREC board is still taking place in September, which means we are still waiting even after battalion). Is this accurate or does passing the battalion board mean the applicant is definitely going to WOCS? I'm all escited 'n stuff. Best of luck to everybody, AD, RES and CIV. May the odds be ever in your favor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCav19D Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 Oh what the hell (I was avoiding posting stats; superstitious...) Age: 31AFQT/GT: 99/135SIFT: 75APFT: Taking tuesday. doing about a 250-260 right now...stupid situps...Civilian Education: BSN (nursing)Flight Physical: Complete and waiver free (waiting on rucker stamp, should be this week)Flight Experience: 10.9 hours helicopterLOR's: College prof, Army Capt. Recruiting commander (friend), fellow RN colleague. Just could NOT get a local WO on the darn phone! Gerr....mumble grumble...Waiver: NoneOccupation: Registered nurse of 7 years.Other: CCRN certified. I'm still not clear on this whole thing....so does USAREC have a separate board after battalion for us "long hairs"? I was under the assumption that the battalion level board is sort of a "screening" and the final decision is USAREC (in this case, that would mean monthly board still happens and the USAREC board is still taking place in September, which means we are still waiting even after battalion). Is this accurate or does passing the battalion board mean the applicant is definitely going to WOCS? I'm all escited 'n stuff. Best of luck to everybody, AD, RES and CIV. May the odds be ever in your favor.Get a CWO, a LOR from one is really big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nics42 Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 So I'm going through Alabama on my way to family vacation. Does Rucker actually take walk in flight physicals? I'm trying to get this done because at this point I may not make the September due date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCav19D Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Contact their health clinic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsey Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 334-255-7000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nics42 Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Thanks guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Won2Be Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Get a CWO, a LOR from one is really big.Would LOVE to have one! So far no luck. Getting contact info for a CWO is confusing enough, then when you are able to leave voice mails, no call backs. With all the comments about how common obtaining LORs from CWOs is for civilians, I'm really wondering if this is accurate. Everyone I've physically spoken to gets this very confused sound to their voice "but...they don't know you..." And honestly, YEAH! That's correct! They don't know me! Why it would matter to the board that a stranger is recommending me really makes no sense IMHO. It just doesn't seem to be the common or well known thing so many forum posts claim it is... Interesting anecdote: the only reason I was able to get a CWO5 to talk to me was because of a work friend of my wife's who set up a phone call. Yup! My wife is the big cheese at the moment . But now no call backs from him either or the CWOs he directed me towards (and yes, I dropped his name when I called them, still nothing back). Really kind of frustrating. But we shall see. Really shouldn't sweat it I suppose, Just want to have done everything possible for this packet. I will pray to the swash plate. Perhaps the spirit of the teeter bearing shall shine blessings upon me. But I digress..... I've heard of applicants hanging around the hangar till someone sees them and directs them to the appropriate office. Is this really how people go about it? Just seems...odd.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCav19D Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 I contacted a USAR AH-64/UH-60 pilot I was acquainted with over on reddit.com/r/army, and he hooked me up with a CW4. That's not the norm, but it is one way to go. Contact the nearest NG/USAR aviation unit and ask for a senior warrant for an interview. Try the nearest federal base that has aviation assets as well. I can't stress it enough, a LOR from a CWO is big. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stearmann4 Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 Won2be, When you get a hold of a CWO for the purposes of obtaining an LOR, I would maybe approach it from the verbiage of "If possible I'd like to interview with you for the purpose of obtaining a Letter of recommendation for my WOC application." For a WO that doesn't know you, it's much less pressure than "I need an LOR". Like any other job interview, I'd offer to email your resume, photo and any other pertinent information for him/her to review at their leisure, then follow up with a call or email a week or so later. This eases the transition from "stranger stalking me for an LOR", to someone a WO has had at least a few hours to get to know on paper. And frankly, the more familiar the WO is with you, the more passionate and convincing your LOR will be. By the way, these are not WO trade secrets, you can read up on these techniques from just about any reputable job hunting/interview books. I just realized, I have 2LTs, and 2 WO1s at Rucker right now that I had a hand in. Its pretty cool to see your replacements in action. Mike- 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Won2Be Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Thank you for the advice gentlemen. Its funny, I even made up a script before calling each lead so I wouldn't forget anything; analyzed it beforehand, ensuring thoroughness and respect. I was referred by the CWO5 of the state hoping his reference would act as an "icebreaker." No dice. Making a CWO reference as a de facto requirement regardless of if they actually know the applicant has always seemed odd to me. I understand that active aviators know better than anyone about what makes a good applicant. Still, it makes the process smell of the "who you know, not what you can do" corporate style variety. I'm probably over-thinking the thing (what with the constant drone of "get a CWO reference! You'll really be glad you did" all over this forum) its hard not to. I'm hoping that some people have gotten the opportunity to serve without that particular reference. I guess I'll find out soon enough. And at the pace this endless application process is going, "soon" is probably anywhere from 6-12 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StockTrader Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Thank you for the advice gentlemen. Its funny, I even made up a script before calling each lead so I wouldn't forget anything; analyzed it beforehand, ensuring thoroughness and respect. I was referred by the CWO5 of the state hoping his reference would act as an "icebreaker." No dice. Making a CWO reference as a de facto requirement regardless of if they actually know the applicant has always seemed odd to me. I understand that active aviators know better than anyone about what makes a good applicant. Still, it makes the process smell of the "who you know, not what you can do" corporate style variety. I'm probably over-thinking the thing (what with the constant drone of "get a CWO reference! You'll really be glad you did" all over this forum) its hard not to. I'm hoping that some people have gotten the opportunity to serve without that particular reference. I guess I'll find out soon enough. And at the pace this endless application process is going, "soon" is probably anywhere from 6-12 months. Have to stay after it. Took me a few months to get in touch with a CW5 through networking. Remember, the board only has a few minutes to look through your entire packet. Having a senior warrant officer LOR shows that someone in the ranks got to see you or speak to you for more than 3-5 minutes. Essentially "vetting" you. One of the things you will learn if you get selected, warrants are responsible for stewardship of the profession. This applies through many avenues such as mentorship and helping good people join our ranks. On the reverse side it also helps steer away those that dont possess the right qualities that are wanted in warrant officers. So its not so much a "who you know" type thing(it can be), but getting a LOR from a senior warrant shows that you were able to find a way and show that you were at least deserving of the time taken to write such letter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCav19D Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Think of it like this... It isn't about who you know, it's about how far you will go to get this packet done the right way. No, lacking a CWO LOR won't kill you - but having one will show the lengths you'll go to in order to have the best application possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stearmann4 Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Its really not a "who you know" thing. senior WOs are reminded periodically that it's in our best interest to assist aspiring WOCs in an effort to strengthen the WO Corps with good folks. A good LOR doesn't;t need to be written by someone who knows you intimately (not THAT kind of intimate). A good corporate quality interview prefaced by a well written resume tells me pretty much all I need to know about a candidate. Mike- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyfoot Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Not sure why this part of the process always seems to be the one that a lot of prospective applicants get hung up on. I think it's because people concentrate on LOR's before they even have a packet together. It's really simple: Get your packet completed, not "I'm waiting on my college/boss/whatever to send me a crucial document", but absolutely solid by the checklist. Then contact a Senior WO and state "Sir, I (looked you up on global, googled your CAB's unit page, am a friend of your wife's brother's uncles sister's neighbor's cousin twice removed, etc etc) and I want more than anything to become an Army Aviator. I have completed a WOFT packet and I was wondering if you would be willing to review it and recommend me as an Aviation Warrant Officer should you decide that I am what Army is looking for. I am available any time for a face to face interview. It really is that easy. You can always give them a WARNO, but understand that nobody is going to want to interview you until your packet is done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StockTrader Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Not sure why this part of the process always seems to be the one that a lot of prospective applicants get hung up on. I think it's because people concentrate on LOR's before they even have a packet together. It's really simple: Get your packet completed, not "I'm waiting on my college/boss/whatever to send me a crucial document", but absolutely solid by the checklist. Then contact a Senior WO and state "Sir, I (looked you up on global, googled your CAB's unit page, am a friend of your wife's brother's uncles sister's neighbor's cousin twice removed, etc etc) and I want more than anything to become an Army Aviator. I have completed a WOFT packet and I was wondering if you would be willing to review it and recommend me as an Aviation Warrant Officer should you decide that I am what Army is looking for. I am available any time for a face to face interview. It really is that easy. You can always give them a WARNO, but understand that nobody is going to want to interview you until your packet is done. Yup. That about sums it up lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ajreidy Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 Well, this week would have been the week of the selection board. Honestly, considering how things went down last November, I'm keeping my fingers crossed. November got cancelled last year, but some civilians still got looked at and pick up for WOFT, so I am hoping that they may do the same this time around. If not... well here's to another 2 months of waiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StockTrader Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 Well hopefully he will chime in soon with his good news. But yes, civilians were looked at on this board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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