Guest pokey Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Another with absolutely zero to contribute. The subject is the original poster's website. Have you anything to say about that? Anything to offer at all? el wrongo again el capitano, the subject is his new flight school, YOU the one that turned it into a rant about his website. Like i said earlier in a different post, playing checkers with a pigeon, no matter what ya say,win or lose, the bird gonna sh^* on the board and strut about like it won anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pokey Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 I believe Jesse James (the motorcycle guy) once replied when confronted with the naysayer that told him "yeah right! you don't even have a shop!".................... "sure i do, it just isn't here yet" Nothing wrong with thinking big and dreaming.PERIOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) el wrongo again el capitano, the subject is his new flight school, I’ll have to disagree as there is no flight school, other than an illusion of one…. And, while I applaud any and all attempts to forge one’s own path in the pursuit of prosperity, this attempt doesn’t pass the mustard test…. In this case, even Mr. James would say so, if not more vigorously….. Sorry Jeff. No disrespect...... If you want to talk specifics, feel free to PM me…… Edited April 19, 2015 by Spike 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pokey Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) I’ll have to disagree as there is no flight school, other than an illusion of one…. And, while I applaud any and all attempts to forge one’s own path in the pursuit of prosperity, this attempt doesn’t pass the mustard test…. In this case, even Mr. James would say so, if not more vigorously….. Sorry Jeff. No disrespect...... If you want to talk specifics, feel free to PM me…… another mind reader? How do ya know what "Mr. James" would say? what i quoted? he actually DID say. I would also go as far to speculate that had the Wright brothers not had the dream and illusion to be able to fly like a bird, they prolly wouldn't have. Edited April 19, 2015 by pokey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avbug Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 el wrongo again el capitano, the subject is his new flight school, YOU the one that turned it into a rant about his website. He has no flight school. He has no aircraft, offers no training. The only "flight school" is a website asking for money to build a business that does not exist. No airplanes, no helicopters, no simulators. Nothing. The opening thread was all about the web site; go to the web site. Once there, we find it exists to ask for money. It was all about asking for donations to fund a non-existent business. I would also go as far to speculate that had the Wright brothers not had the dream and illusion to be able to fly like a bird, they prolly wouldn't have. The Wrights sought a patent to make money, and they kept their activities quiet, and later sought not to share their findings (which weren't their findings, but built on the backs of others like Lilienthal and Chanute), but to protect them. They tried to extort and blackmail the Smithsonian, and fought viciously in court against Curtiss, who actually designed the flight controls in use today. The Wrights were not the first in flight, nor were they the first heavier than air in flight, nor the first powered in flight; their claim was the first controlled, powered, heavier than air flight, and their system was inferior to that of Curtis; it was their dogged defense of wing warping that lead to the invention of the aileron, still the primary roll control in fixed wing today. If anything, the wrights held back progress. It's not about dreaming. It's about this thread, which exists to advertise a business which does not, and which was posted seeking donations for that business. Who here has rushed forward to donate? Have YOU? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagMan Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Youre going to need some financial ties to start a business in aviation. And if you dont make the cash as it is or have the assets for a huge expensive loan, youre going to need an investor or two, at which point you start splitting the ownership of the business. The "gofundme" idea doesnt necessarily work in this respect, not like it works for funding the development of a new running shoe that also makes coffee for consumers. Instead of trying to get the publics help, you need to just find a couple individuals with a wealth of cash, but, you also need to have a surefire business plan that will absolutely provide a service to the public that have a huge demand for it or have the cash for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avbug Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Investors are going to put money into something that has a sound financial plan, which includes adequate market research to substantiate the investment. A solid business plan isn't presented on the web site; perhaps the sole principal has this sequestered somewhere else and is hesitant to show it. At a minimum it's going to need to have some well-researched data providing anticipated returns on investment, including the anticipated frequency of flight training offered, aggregate income from all sources, etc. It's going to need a solid database rather than a speculative one, and that doesn't start with trying to decide between the big bird or the small bird for the web site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted April 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Not one relevant contribution to the thread, still. Your'e quite consistent, and entirely unable to provide anything useful. Nothing at all. Since I am the one who started this thread, I am the one who gets to define the scope of the thread. And since I am the one who proposed the original idea of this thread, I am the one who gets to determine which responses are relevant. Avbug has gone on and on about how my business does not exist. He (or she, perhaps) has been very critical about me being on this forum requesting donations from everyone. The fact is that I started this post soliciting anyone who owns a helicopter and might be interested in a leaseback arrangement. I know it seems unlikely, but I figure there might be one or two helicopter owners on VR. <sarcasm> So the least relevant contributions on this thread so far are from avbug, the one person who unwittingly claims to be able to determine what I think is relevant to the thread I started. Any other irrelevant posts have been because of the nonsense avbug keeps spewing. Avbug, I really couldn't care less about what you think or have to say about the business I am starting, much less how I choose to run it. Please, avbug, stop posting your drivel on my thread. If you don't own a helicopter, or if you do and don't want to lease it to me, then go bother someone else! Let me make one thing clear. The purpose of this thread is NOT to solicit donations from any of you out there in VR Land reading this. The purpose is stated clearly in my first post. The website has a portal for making donations, yes. The top of the home page briefly outlines the purpose of the business. When I decide to actually advertise my services, I will pay for a banner to be displayed on VR just like the other companies have. So please, visit my website all you want. Click away. I'm not asking any of you for donations or loans, so don't give me any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avbug Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Since I am the one who started this thread, I am the one who gets to define the scope of the thread. And since I am the one who proposed the original idea of this thread, I am the one who gets to determine which responses are relevant. No, you really don't. As the initiator of a thread, you open it up to where ever it goes, and if you post a link to a website, be prepared for comment on that website. Your answers thus far, for the owner and initiator of a new business, are not impressive. Nobody gets to comment on your motto. Nobody gets to comment on your site. Only respond with the posts that you approve. Only you can determine what is relevant. Relevant: posts regarding the subject matter, which you introduced. Posts regarding your business. Posts regarding the web site which you linked. Posts regarding your request for a helicopter, and posts regarding your request for money, as indicated by the web site that you linked. Given that you linked a website with numerous inaccuracies, it opens the field to considerable breadth regarding your subject topic. Irrelevant: snide comments regarding other posters and anything entirely irrelevant to the topic, and things which don't apply. You want to hear only what you want to hear; your'e allowed to do that, but you really don't get to elect what's posted in the thread. You strike me as a 20 something, "dreamer" perhaps, with a hell of a lot left to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pokey Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 sheeesh ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avbug Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 sheeesh ! Now THERE'S a good, solid, relevant contribution that moves the thread forward, chock full of intellectual thought. Wow! And we were hear to receive it. What would you say if you had a college education? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pokey Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Now THERE'S a good, solid, relevant contribution that moves the thread forward, chock full of intellectual thought. Wow! And we were hear to receive it. What would you say if you had a college education?matter of fact? i do have college education,, do you dare ask my major? No, you really don't. you all need to realize,, avbug rules the sky. One day you are the rotor blade,, other day you are the bug that comes here to troll. Avtroll? no thank you,, i filled up at last stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted April 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Now THERE'S a good, solid, relevant contribution that moves the thread forward, chock full of intellectual thought. Wow! And we were hear to receive it. What would you say if you had a college education?If I had a college education, which I do, a degree even, I would say that you aren't smart enough to spell "here" instead of "hear". Jesus said, "And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not perceive the plank in your own eye?" --Luke 6:41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted April 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 No, you really don't. As the initiator of a thread, you open it up to where ever it goes, and if you post a link to a website, be prepared for comment on that website. And as a poster you don't get to determine relevancy either. If all you want to do is distract legitimate contributors of this thread with your nonsense about whether or not their posts are relevant, then your comments are not welcome. Start your own thread with a topic of post relevancy to attempt to educate everyone in properly maintaining whatever standard you have imagined up in your brain about how to be a relevant contributor to other threads. Don't burden the rest of us with your moral relativism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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