Jonathan Bailey Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 It is probably just prudent to wear flight gear such as this when piloting a chopper at low absolute altitude in mountains, through canyons and over tree tops. If the bird craps out in low flight, there might not be a nice level soft (water, grass, sand) surface nearby to ditch on. I think tan still looks "coolest" in civilian private helicopters (and fixed-wing planes too). It and the black accessories match any aircraft paint scheme. Woodland camo won't look good in a slick bright chartreuse helicopter. Of course my chopper would have twin engine turbine power and we know how rare a complete power loss is in a bird like this. This is Vernon, my handsome young model with that 1980's/1970's California surfer hair-dude look. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous??? Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Anyone else extremely confused...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PondJumper Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Is the bieber cut a requirement? Otherwise looks pretty standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Bailey Posted May 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Anyone else extremely confused......Confused? Lost? Is the bieber cut a requirement? Otherwise looks pretty standard.Standard? Do civilian pilots commonly dress like this?That is no Bieber haircut. Much too long, blond and curly. Is your compass calibrated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Hunt Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 A One-piece suit, unless you are in an aircraft fitted with an ejection seat, is not practical. Get a 2-piece, able to take off the shirt and wear a T-shirt (and show off your fabulous body) while reloading in hot areas, able to use the toilet in winter without stripping right off and freezing everything as well as your butt. Far more comfortable, and able to fit people with long legs or short arms or big gut. Your plan is to make your fortune and buy your S-92 and Gulfstream and KingAir, and fly them around. You would need to have a serious amount of experience in flying to take on 2 out of 3 of those, and be an ace from space to fly all 3. But while getting these thousands of hours, you will be earning four fifths of stuff-all money, and unable to buy these toys. And anyway, if you made your fortune while still being young and having that head-out-the-window haircut, a smart person would hire the experienced pilots to do the flying for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Bailey Posted May 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 A One-piece suit, unless you are in an aircraft fitted with an ejection seat, is not practical. Get a 2-piece, able to take off the shirt and wear a T-shirt (and show off your fabulous body) while reloading in hot areas, able to use the toilet in winter without stripping right off and freezing everything as well as your butt. Far more comfortable, and able to fit people with long legs or short arms or big gut. Your plan is to make your fortune and buy your S-92 and Gulfstream and KingAir, and fly them around. You would need to have a serious amount of experience in flying to take on 2 out of 3 of those, and be an ace from space to fly all 3. But while getting these thousands of hours, you will be earning four fifths of stuff-all money, and unable to buy these toys. And anyway, if you made your fortune while still being young and having that head-out-the-window haircut, a smart person would hire the experienced pilots to do the flying for you. If I were rich enough to afford all these birds or any one of them I certainly would be rich enough for all the necessary flight training, practice fuel and certs and licensing needed. I would want as little to do with piston or single-engine aircraft as possible. If I were a billionaire like Bill Gates, I would certainly lack no funding to be a legal and proper aviator: I would go for the full boat certification including multiple turbine engine aircraft and even instrument rating! To some IFR only means "I follow roads (or rivers)." I would be the captain of my plane or chopper. A super rich man can also hire a certified copilot which I would do also. Flying for fun is indeed a rich man's ball of wax. Anything is possible when money is no object. Tell me that Microsoft king Bill Gates could never be qualified to legally pilot a 747, a LearJet, a Gulfstream, a Bell JetRanger or a Sikorski S-92 even if he wanted to be. The Sikorski S-92 retails for about $17.5 million new the last time I checked. A Gulfstream G650: $60 milA Beech KingAir: $5-7 mil A Robinson R-22 or Cessna one-hundred-something-series model trainer, the price of a middle-class California home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avbug Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 This post is hidden because you have chosen to ignore posts by Jonathan Bailey. Much better. Considerably better signal to noise ratio. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Bailey Posted May 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Much better. Considerably better signal to noise ratio.I think there is a bias here against young fellows with that California 1970's/1980's full-head-a-hair look. I totally despise the bearded chrome-dome, skinhead, body-pierced tats look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Bailey Posted May 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 A One-piece suit, unless you are in an aircraft fitted with an ejection seat, is not practical. Get a 2-piece, able to take off the shirt and wear a T-shirt (and show off your fabulous body) while reloading in hot areas, able to use the toilet in winter without stripping right off and freezing everything as well as your butt. Far more comfortable, and able to fit people with long legs or short arms or big gut. Your plan is to make your fortune and buy your S-92 and Gulfstream and KingAir, and fly them around. You would need to have a serious amount of experience in flying to take on 2 out of 3 of those, and be an ace from space to fly all 3. But while getting these thousands of hours, you will be earning four fifths of stuff-all money, and unable to buy these toys. And anyway, if you made your fortune while still being young and having that head-out-the-window haircut, a smart person would hire the experienced pilots to do the flying for you.I don't think most civilian private aircraft are fitted with ejection seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoknows idont Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 I think there is a bias here against young fellows with that California 1970's/1980's full-head-a-hair look. I totally despise the bearded chrome-dome, skinhead, body-pierced tats look. The problem is not what's on your head. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_P148 Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 It is probably just prudent to wear flight gear such as this when piloting a chopper at low absolute altitude in mountains, through canyons and over tree tops. If the bird craps out in low flight, there might not be a nice level soft (water, grass, sand) surface nearby to ditch on. I think tan still looks "coolest" in civilian private helicopters (and fixed-wing planes too). It and the black accessories match any aircraft paint scheme. Woodland camo won't look good in a slick bright chartreuse helicopter. Of course my chopper would have twin engine turbine power and we know how rare a complete power loss is in a bird like this. Your fashion model needs to eat a cheese burger or something. 1 pieces are impracticable, 2 piece is the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wally Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) One piece flight suits hang from your shoulders.If you are not identical with one of the dozen or so physiques used to 'size', one-piece fit poorly.Try, just try to use a portapotty without fouling your one-piece. Once had a medic return from a personal comfort excursion with a long strip of toilet paper dragging from his collar. Not to mention trying to use a cat hole. This is a helicopter forum, sub-optimum or improvised conveniences feature large in this universe.If it's fire-resistant, it's almost definitely Nomex. If Nomex is heavy enough to be effective, it impedes air circulation, and is even hotter. Nomex doesn't wick to assist cooling.Notice the illustrated example doesn't have 'pants pockets'? Cheaper and even less practical. But, hey! It's nomex just like "Maverick" wears in the movie, right, Goose? Heavy hot sweaty ugly dirty bake-in bag. Edited May 22, 2015 by Wally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Pig Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Your mother is calling.... dinner is ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagMan Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 I believe the flight suit you have created already exists..... But bravo! A cheeseburger for your efforts 🍔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Again, in the gamer world, you can conceive, check that, imagine whatever you want. Shoot, my kid makes up all kinds of unusual characters. Dudes with huge muscles and horns coming out of their heads wielding lasers and swords killing everything in sight. When he is killed, he instantaneously re-spawns to life to fight again. Some of his characters wear helmets and flight suits too….. Safety tip; don’t sit too close to the monitor. It’s bad for your eyes…… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Bailey Posted May 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 One piece flight suits hang from your shoulders.If you are not identical with one of the dozen or so physiques used to 'size', one-piece fit poorly.Try, just try to use a portapotty without fouling your one-piece. Once had a medic return from a personal comfort excursion with a long strip of toilet paper dragging from his collar. Not to mention trying to use a cat hole. This is a helicopter forum, sub-optimum or improvised conveniences feature large in this universe.If it's fire-resistant, it's almost definitely Nomex. If Nomex is heavy enough to be effective, it impedes air circulation, and is even hotter. Nomex doesn't wick to assist cooling.Notice the illustrated example doesn't have 'pants pockets'? Cheaper and even less practical. But, hey! It's nomex just like "Maverick" wears in the movie, right, Goose? Heavy hot sweaty ugly dirty bake-in bag.Nomex is hot? My helicopter had better have a good a/c system then. Do they make two-piece COOL flight suits, not necessary fire-retardant. How about 100% cotton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Pig Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 Why are we doing this? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotormandan Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 What's the point of a flight suit if it's not fire-retardant? Unless you're flying your helicopter to your truck mechanic job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 Why are we doing this? Honestly, I’m bored…….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Bailey Posted May 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 Why are we doing this?We are talking about attire and equipment worn by aviators. It is indeed serious business that might be overlooked sometimes. it is like riding or dreaming of a Harley-Davidson. What you wear is as important as what you ride on or dream to ride on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoknows idont Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 It's absolutely not important what you wear while you dream of your Harley and it sure as sh*t is the opposite of serious business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Bailey Posted May 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 What's the point of a flight suit if it's not fire-retardant? Unless you're flying your helicopter to your truck mechanic job.We have to balance comfort with safety. Do passengers on an S-92 wear fire retardant gear while riding to an oil platform? Some here have stated that a fire-retardant suit is too hot and sweaty. A civilian helicopter is not likely to get shot at. A civilian recreational helicopter for sight-seeing or touring is not going to do dangerous missions like... -firefighting-law-enforcement-search and rescue-combat-working damn close to power lines for line repair-logging-heavy lifting of cargo-in-flight refueling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobie Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 I too sometimes wonder why things are made the way the are. I think we have covered flight wear enough, so how about taking a look at music insturments Jonathan? Like this: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Bailey Posted May 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 I too sometimes wonder why things are made the way the are. I think we have covered flight wear enough, so how about taking a look at music insturments Jonathan? Like this: Very well, I am done with helicopter clothes myself. Maybe I will start a new thread about suits men wear on the moon and why they are so worn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Pig Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 I too sometimes wonder why things are made the way the are. I think we have covered flight wear enough, so how about taking a look at music insturments Jonathan? Like this: Huh? Whoda' thought? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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