MuffinMan Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Dirty, That's the truth. Honestly, the word I have gotten is that people just don't put their packets up. I've talked to great soldiers that want to do it but find every excuse not spend the time doing the paper work. Pretty straightforward litmus test to be an officer: do you have the attention span to do a stack of paper work where the instructions are spelled out for you? Strange times I guess Definitely not many people take the time to complete their packets. But even those that do still have hurdles. Best friend is 68W and began his packet with legit scores, LORs, and APFT score. during flight physical the flight surgeon sent him for psych eval and they did a sleep study (he's had ambien prescription since completing his first tour). Didn't get stamped because of that and apparently was no waiver for it. I guess now he's going to see what he needs to do to become flight medic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapper Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Muffin, I was not trying to lump those not medically qualified into the same category. More or less it seems there are a great deal of medically qualified people that just don't try. I do think doing the application and then getting medically DQ is actually uncommon. Typically, most people who have a legitimate issue kind of steer clear of aviation if their situation is not temporary. But I know really good guys that just will not apply to save their life....that's the part I was getting at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuffinMan Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Muffin, I was not trying to lump those not medically qualified into the same category. More or less it seems there are a great deal of medically qualified people that just don't try. I do think doing the application and then getting medically DQ is actually uncommon. Typically, most people who have a legitimate issue kind of steer clear of aviation if their situation is not temporary. But I know really good guys that just will not apply to save their life....that's the part I was getting at.No worries Sapper, I totally agree with you. From the civilian side, the fact that only two people (myself and another guy that got selected) even TOOK the SIFT test at Dallas MEPS is a pretty sad stat in my opinion. I was trying more than anything, to bring another viewpoint to the conversation. I think we were on the same metaphorical page of things, just maybe different paragraphs hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insights_STG Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 The SIFT scores you see being reported here are total bullshit. If you read posts from just this forum, you would think the average Sift-Test-score was a 78. Lots of liars.. Not important though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve0 Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 The SIFT scores you see being reported here are total bullshit. If you read posts from just this forum, you would think the average Sift-Test-score was a 78. Lots of liars.. Not important though. http://s32.postimg.org/stnywt6f9/image.jpg 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luofynerd Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 http://s32.postimg.org/stnywt6f9/image.jpgI also think civilians have higher sift scores because they are generally closer to the school age, or have advanced beyond high school. Most of the people on here that are active have been in for 6-12 years and haven't opened a math book in years. 6+ years out of high school you forget how to math. At least that was my case. 52 is still passing "Cs get degrees" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luofynerd Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 I had a Soldier who recently PCSd to my platoon and he said he was waiting on his warrant packet to board in two weeks. That was the November board of last year. I was like wow that's awesome I'm working on my packet too! I proceeded to ask him questions about his packet to see how competitive he would be against me. (He's a SPC) He told me he scored a 87 on the SIFT and got a LOR from a general. I was like...87? That's good man! I was pretty sure 80 was the max. So I researched it before I said anything. I questioned him some more I was like what other letters did you get? He was like well I just got the general, cause who else would you need if your post commander says you're hot sh*t. I was like okay but it's required to have company and BN commander lors. He changed his story like well yeah I got those but the general is the only one I care about. I was like ah okay cool. Long long story short, I waited two weeks until the results came out and low and behold his name was NOWHERE on the list, I was like hey man why isn't your name on the list he was like "well I didn't get picked up so my name won't be on it" I was like do you have some kind of mental issue? Or are you just a pathological liar? He looked at me like I was stupid and was like " I should be good on the next board I get two looks". SMH. Needless to say when he got into trouble a few weeks later and got an art15 the commander asked my opinion of if he was telling the truth and I said nope, told him the above story and he was like wtf. Guilty. Ha liars get caught up eventually. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creep0321 Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 Insight, get over yourself bro. Just because people score better than you, does not mean they are liars. Look at how many people get selected, and how many are posting here it is a very small percentage. And then consider all those that do not get selected, or even apply because they fail 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmurray Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 Probably 75%, or more of the sift scores people are reporting on this site are bullshit. The SIFT scores you see being reported here are total bullshit. If you read posts from just this forum, you would think the average Sift-Test-score was a 78. Lots of liars.. Not important though. He was mad before too. Like explained in other threads on this website; the scores you see here tend to be higher than normal. Maybe because the people who post here are more committed to success. Maybe it's just a fluke. Who knows. My 78 is legitimate. It's no concern to me if you believe it. That's what's in my packet. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luofynerd Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 He was mad before too. Like explained in other threads on this website; the scores you see here tend to be higher than normal. Maybe because the people who post here are more committed to success. Maybe it's just a fluke. Who knows. My 78 is legitimate. It's no concern to me if you believe it. That's what's in my packet.Good thing I'm not going against most of the people on this site ha. 78 geez. Must be a nerd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsey Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 The SIFT scores you see being reported here are total bullshit. If you read posts from just this forum, you would think the average Sift-Test-score was a 78. Lots of liars.. Not important though. We don't need this attitude in Army Aviation, nor in this forum. Accept people are going to be better than you in some aspects, it's part of life. Get over yourself. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StockTrader Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 Ive met a significant amount of people from this forum. Top notch people so I'm not doubting scores posted here at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luofynerd Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 I'd like to think my sift score doesn't negate my top notchiness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian101193 Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 I'd like to think my sift score doesn't negate my top notchiness. [/quote Nobody even knows if the board looks at your SIFT score. That's my favorite part of this, for all we know, they just look at it as a pass or fail. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmurray Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 Nobody even knows if the board looks at your SIFT score. That's my favorite part of this, for all we know, they just look at it as a pass or fail.Exactly. I think(hope) they view the applicants as a whole individual. Just because I scored high doesn't really mean anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luofynerd Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 I hope they just look at your photo. Cause boy I'm one sexy mf. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve0 Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 I hope they just look at your photo. Cause boy I'm one sexy mf.I hear they track down your iTunes playlist. You might be riding shotgun with one of them someday and you better gots some dope beats! I actually have no idea if a Blackhawk can sync with an iPod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamer Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 We don't need this attitude in Army Aviation, nor in this forum. Accept people are going to be better than you in some aspects, it's part of life. Get over yourself.Shots fired!!! The Lindsay-girl thinks she is the greatest person on earth.. And she might occasionally help someone, but you can always tell she is on some sort of power trip.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luofynerd Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 Shots fired!!! Lol I said shots fired on the other post where he said that didn't see yours so don't think I'm copying you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamer Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 (edited) Lol I said shots fired on the other post where he said that didn't see yours so don't think I'm copying you!No worries! Just riling her up a little. Edited May 8, 2016 by Yamer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insights_STG Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 We don't need this attitude in Army Aviation, nor in this forum. Accept people are going to be better than you in some aspects, it's part of life. Get over yourself.See!?!!?!? this is exactly the type of sh*t i am referencing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creep0321 Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 I fail to see what you are trying to say. That's she is pointing out a true fact? And you do need to get over yourself? And admit you are not the best? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insights_STG Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 Maybe because the people who post here are more committed to success. Maybe it's just a fluke. Who knows. My 78 is legitimate. It's no concern to me if you believe it. That's what's in my packet. yah you along with the other 98% on this site were able to pull a 78+.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsey Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 I have seen two people on here say they got an 80. Two. That's it. And maybe a couple more say they got a 78. Your exaggeration of this is overwhelming and wildly inaccurate. I see dozens of scores in the 50s and 60s. In a forum generally full of people trying to help each other out and guiding quality applicants through the process, you calling people liars using wildly exaggerated numbers and with no proof is just simply not welcome. If that means I have an attitude, then you need some thicker skin. If you think I'm condescending and mean, just wait until you meet your first IP if you ever get that far. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luofynerd Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 Lindsey's clearly a troll. Go away shindigette. Kidding of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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