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#21 mike0331

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Posted 07 December 2016 - 16:52

I believe with the exception of one of the 4 units around me which has Blackhawks and Chinooks and even some fixed wing, they are all Blackhawks. Personally I'd be happy just to fly anything, BUT I do like the mission of the Blackhawks, especially given a lot of local units are air ambulance. Having been a grunt I have an appreciation for Dustoff (as well as Pedros). I understand the Chinooks offer some great capabilities as far as altitude, speed, and mountains go, which is pretty cool. 

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Posted 07 December 2016 - 17:14

Mike, I am in sort of a general situation as you now.

 

I got ahold of the WOSM from Florida and found that they are over strength in aviation. While Florida was the best option for me because I'd be going to the main campus at Daytona Beach, it won't work right away.

 

So I've contacted the Maryland WOSM and they have open slots for WOFT. They would want me to do a year of service in the guard, but the regulations that he gave me give an exception to the policy - a letter of exception from the Adjutant General. Already working on that and looking at the people I know to see if they know anyone.

 

My second option is contacting Arizona, as Embry-Riddle has a satellite campus in Prescott. 

 

Third option is Virginia NG, closely tied with Maryland as Embry-Riddle has another campus at Andrews AFB and I have family not too far away. Haven't heard anything back from the Virginia WOSM. I guess if Virginia and Maryland fall through I will look at Arizona as a last option and if that doesn't work I'll just complete my degree and go active.



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Posted 07 December 2016 - 17:27

Unfortunately I am bound by location. Fortunately that includes 3 states. From talking to all the states around me (and i still need to reach out to WOSMs, though the strength numbers at the moment would be a bit premature given my 18  month timeline), if they want me I can at least get in the pipeline. It seems I may have better luck some places than others to faster route to WOFT. I'm also prior service, so I am under the impression I can check in, put a packet together and get it submitted, and they will delay AIT until I get picked up for WOFT. This is just one state though, and it would be a bit of a handshake deal. I loved my time in the Marine Corps, but that's because I got everything in writing. I know plenty of people who have had "deals" work out about as much as you would expect. Not too many admin guys in the Marine Corps signed up with the intention of being staple-gunners.

 

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Posted 07 December 2016 - 17:53

Mike,

 

I recommend you getting fixed wing ratings if you have the time/money, if flying is a passion.  Get your private ticket then go after instruments.  It'll likely be the most bang for your buck in developing skills quickly.  It will also be very useful down the road (for instance, you might be able to commute to the AASF in your airplane; one of our guys does).  

 

H-60 minimums are 96 hours per year, split into two periods.  That's 8 hours per month, or 4 two hour flights per month, and you'll want more than that when you're just starting out.  I don't know about the NE states, but we have one or two drills with no flights due to admin requirements, and then you have to consider that once you're out of progression, you're the least likely one to fill a seat.  So even if you can make every drill, you might only fly 2-4 hours per drill, which means you need to plan on flying once a week to be proficient on an AFTP.  Mind you, a two hour flight will take at least 4 hours out of your day.  This is also why I recommend living close to the airfield.  

 

One last suggestion: talk to the NY ANG rescue squadron (101st RQS) at Westhampton, NY.  We've got an RQS here, and I absolutely would love to do their mission (but there are other issues which are keeping me from seriously attempting the move). 


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Posted 07 December 2016 - 18:52

Unfortunately Westhampton is about 4 hours from me, with no traffic. I know NH has the White Mountains, not sure how often NG is used for rescues up there. 

 

I emailed a local flight school (10 mins from me) about rates for fixed wing today. There is a well known and regarded flight school at a towered airport about 35 minutes away. I've heard there are benefits to learning at a towered airport, so unless this local place is very competitive with their rates, I may just go there. I figure getting some radio procedure and airport formalities down would be nice. I can probably afford an hour at $160 every 3 weeks or so, more if I get a well-paying internship this summer. I also wouldn't mind getting 4-5 more hours in a helicopter prior to all this just for my own comfort. Besides as I understand it, if I wanted to rent an R22 from a local airport after being a licensed helicopter pilot, they require some R22 time anyway. 

 

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Posted 08 December 2016 - 02:43

To those that fly NG -

 

Since you can not fly consistently, do you ever feel rusty after a few weeks out of the cockpit? I know you graduate from flight school being proficient, but I've noticed with flying myself that if you take an extended break that whenever you get back in the saddle it takes an hour or two for it to feel natural again.



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Posted 08 December 2016 - 13:58

You can definitely tell when junior M-day guys haven't been able to fly consistently, which is most of them. It helps to get a deployment in, and with that heavy dose of repetitive flying they aren't nearly as rusty after long breaks when they are back stateside. 


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Posted 12 December 2016 - 16:45

What do you guys mean by "M-day" and so fourth?

Also unrelated tidbit. Printed a PDF of a vision chart, my left eye is weaker than my right as it has been for years, but I can still read the 20/20 line with it, and about 50% of the 20/15 line. Right eye reads down to 20/10 and some of 20/5. I still think I am going to go to a civilian eye doc and make sure everything checks out of my health insurance through my school covers it.

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 17:01

M Day means you are a regular weekend a month driller.

AGR is a active orders full time position.

There's also full time civilian slots for IP and MTP.
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Posted 12 December 2016 - 19:05

Are the IPs and MTPs on GS pay scale and not AGR? Are they something that only comes available once in a blue moon, or can one expect an opening every few years? Also, if they are not AGR, are they still afforded the opportunity to deploy with their Guard unit? 

 

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 20:00

This is why you need to talk to your potential units, and not the recruiters.  If you had been, you'd have known what M-day was.  The question you asked here is the most pressing one you need to ask those units if you have any intention whatsoever of full-time guard work.

 

If you want to track open positions, search the job listings they post.  AK has a DMVA site for AGR positions and USAJOBS for the Federal Technician jobs.  You'll see on USAJOBS that the Techs are on a GS pay scale.  You'll also see why you should look into the Air Guard, unfortunately. Here: https://www.usajobs.gov/Search/?keyword=pilot&Location=ma&AutoCompleteSelected= 

 

I will tell you the likelihood of getting an AGR is very slim, unless you want to be an officer and make the guard your career.  In my state, the AGR jobs are reserved for leadership billets, one or two senior pilots (State Standardization Pilot), and the bush sites where we can't even hire guys as Fed Techs and keep them.  

 

There are a fair number of Federal Technicians; most of the full-time is GS, however they are also difficult positions to get.  As a brand new part timer, you'll be at the back of the line for those. FWIW, I'm an M-day Instructor Pilot and there's been exactly one IP job at my facility that has come open in the past 3 years.

 

If there's a deployment, everyone is afforded the opportunity to go, don't worry.  If my rumor mill is accurate, a large chunk of the Mass Guard retired when they got their 2nd deployment order to Kuwait.  Poor bastards.


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Posted 12 December 2016 - 20:20

Planning on setting up the meet and greets for potential units after finals wrap-up, and those will probably be for late winter/early spring. Also meeting with a regular recruiter just to get more info. 

 

I was just curious on the permanent positions for informations sake. Right now my plan is to have a civilian career and fly for the Guard, just interested in knowing what options are out there. If I were sure I wanted to do it full time, and toss the benefits that come with Guard aside (staying near home, having the option of predominantly non-military employment, etc), I'd definitely be looking exclusively towards regular army. 

I've thought a little bit about the air guard as I had a friend in undergrad who was a loadmaster on C-5s and got great travel opportunities, but I like army culture a bit more coming from the USMC... and I'm mainly interested in rotary wing, which my local Air Guard unit does not have. 

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Posted 25 January 2017 - 22:23

Just an update, 2 recruiters have said they won't send me up for a SIFT or Flight Phys until I am at least within a few months from graduation, I was honest with the first one and the second at another location knew I had already talked to the station by me. To clarify, I was asking regular army recruiters as the guard won't touch this until I'm committed by way of being in the actual guard.

 

I reached out to the ROTC department at my school and they said they can only administer the SIFT to current cadets. I am going to try the ROTC department at my alma mater and see if they can/will do it. I've also had a friend who is civilian personnel at a local AFB check with the testing center, but they don't administer the SIFT there either.

 

My current plan is to keep trying to find a place that will send me up for the SIFT and hopefully a flight physical by this summer. I need to enlist in a guard unit to put my packet in, and if I don't do so by September I won't keep my rank from the USMC. I am planning to do a meet and greet at the Unit I am favoring in this spring. I was also supposed to get a tour of another unit where an acquaintance is a pilot, but they had some inspection coming up so he had to reschedule. Tentative plan remains join the unit with a hand shake deal to schedule MOS school as late as possible (about 20 months out I am told) and immediately prepare my packet, and get the ball rolling so I am accepted prior to the 20 months mark, but after I sit for the Bar exam the following July. 

 

Just thought I'd keep an update going in case it is helpful to anyone else.

 

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 20:52

How old are you? Just curious.

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 20:59

27, I'll graduate from law school at 28. 6 years USMCR, about 1.5 years active duty between training and deployment. I've been told this means the age cutoff for me is 35 in "army years," which gives me plenty of time. 

 

All that said, I miss the military, so I really want to get back on a solid path to making this all happen. Also since it's likely I'll have to spend some time "enlisted" in the guard prior to going the WO route, I really don't want to go from being an Sergeant in the USMC, and NCO int the USMC for my last almost 3 years in, to being a specialist... which is why I'm trying to get back in before I hit 3 years out. 

 

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Posted 27 January 2017 - 10:52

Just spoke with the person in charge of recruiting for my undergrads ROTC. He seemed to think he could get me in for the SIFT. He was more helpful and knowledgable than the ROTC unit at my current school. He said he's going to research the army regs but he thinks it will be fine (from all I have found it should be OK), and he'll talk to the proctor who is in next week and trying to figure something out. So crossing my fingers that I can just do that. It's an hour and a half drive but I have some friends out there I need to visit anyway. 

 

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 11:10

Just an update. The ROTC office at my undergrad said they will administer the SIFT to me, so I just need to set up a time. Kind of annoyed my current school won't do it, but oh well. Just curious how much time you guys think I need to study. I have already skimmed over the FAA helicopter handbook, the SIFT study guide, and the art and science of flying helicopters, and I've taken a lesson in an R44 (and plan to take a few more). I plan to thoroughly go through all these books prior to the test, which should take me about 3 weeks. Does that sound adequate? My big worry is getting to deep into the school semester and not having adequate time to study. 

 

Just to recap in case someone stumbles upon this thread in the future looking for the same type of help. I am no longer in the IRR so I am a civilian. The national guard won't administer the test until I'm in, and the regular recruiters won't do it unless I'm basically committed and close to "read to go."

 

I'm confident I could pass it right now, but I'd like to put myself as close to an 80 as possible. 

 

Thanks guys

 

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 15:27

Here's the periodic update guys. Taking the SIFT sometime next week with the proctor at a local ROTC unit. I am then meeting with a recruiter and WOSM for the NH NG later in the week. Hopefully figuring out a way to set up the flight physical and come up with a plan from that point forward. 

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 17:34

Here's the periodic update guys. Taking the SIFT sometime next week with the proctor at a local ROTC unit. I am then meeting with a recruiter and WOSM for the NH NG later in the week. Hopefully figuring out a way to set up the flight physical and come up with a plan from that point forward. 

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Good luck! Study hard


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Posted 03 March 2017 - 17:44

I'm just glad I was able to get a date for next week.... School is about to kick into high gear after spring break.  

I finished the FAA rotory wing manual a few weeks back. Going through the SIFT study guide again now. I need to re-learn some math, and also go back over circuits, resistance, voltage drop at resistors, etc. I used to know science stuff... so it's in there somewhere. I feel I have a pretty solid grasp on helicopters and aviation though, at least as much as anyone can from reading a few books and watching a bunch of youtube videos.

How much in-depth knowledge of each army airframe should I have? Empty and gross weight, what weapon systems an Apache can be armed with, etc, or just the roles and noteable facts, IE the Chinook is the fastest? 

I think by the time I sit for the test, the only area that I expect to trip me up is hidden figures. I'm decent at it, but it's the only thing I'm not confident I can train myself to do with total accuracy. 

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