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#41 krustchinsky

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 19:37

I'm just glad I was able to get a date for next week.... School is about to kick into high gear after spring break.  

I finished the FAA rotory wing manual a few weeks back. Going through the SIFT study guide again now. I need to re-learn some math, and also go back over circuits, resistance, voltage drop at resistors, etc. I used to know science stuff... so it's in there somewhere. I feel I have a pretty solid grasp on helicopters and aviation though, at least as much as anyone can from reading a few books and watching a bunch of youtube videos.

How much in-depth knowledge of each army airframe should I have? Empty and gross weight, what weapon systems an Apache can be armed with, etc, or just the roles and noteable facts, IE the Chinook is the fastest? 

I think by the time I sit for the test, the only area that I expect to trip me up is hidden figures. I'm decent at it, but it's the only thing I'm not confident I can train myself to do with total accuracy. 

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Focus on the higher level topics when it comes to the aviation section.Chapters 1-4 of the FAA Helicopter Flying Handbook, and go over the different aircraft in the inventory of the United States Army. Understand their names, identifiers, roles, and general construction. Example being:

Q: Which of the following is a tandem rotor helicopter?

a) AH-64

B) OH-58

c) CH-47

d) UH-60

 

The test has a strong focus on aerodynamics, and being able to define terminology scrounging rotary wing flight.

 

Get points where you can. The aviation, math, and reading sub-tests are easy points based on my experience. The hidden figures, simple drawings, and spatial apperception sub-tests will require focus and a strategy. The mechanical comprehension and math skills sections are where you should spend the bulk of your time studying.


Civilian, selected March 2017.


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Posted 03 March 2017 - 23:49

Im good on spacial aperception and simple drawings. Hidden figures seems to be hit or miss but Ill keep going over them. I'll re-review chapters 1-4 and also start digging back into math this weekend. My mechanical knowledge is good, my conceptual electrical knowledge is good but I need to brush up on EIR equations and application.

Ill be pissed if I don't score at least in the high 70s... I'll let you all know how I do of course.

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Posted 06 March 2017 - 16:49

Officially scheduled to take it from 9-12 at a local college ROTC department on Thursday. This is good as I took a practice ASTB in it's entirety the other day (offered online) and realized I need to brush back up on pulling algebra out of word problems, so this will give me some time the next few days to go over that as well as some of the other stuff. I can't believe I actually knew calculus at one point, those days are definitely long gone. I will be meeting with the recruiter/WOSM on Friday.

I also got a full eye workup done at the VA today just to make sure there would be no surprises. Vision is good. As I expected, my left eye is slightly weaker but they still said 20/15 with no need for corrective lenses. I also went over the color blindness stuff, had them dilate my pupils and look at my retinas, etc. Not sure if the flight physical is that extensive, but I figured it was free, so why not.

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Posted 06 March 2017 - 18:23

The vision portion of the flight physical is very extensive. Your eyes will be dilated.

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Posted 07 March 2017 - 16:28

I'm glad I got this done then. They thought they saw a retinoschisis in my left eye (which I guess is waiver-able if its not progressive and doesn't cause vision loss) but they looked into it further and turned out to be nothing. So if this shows up again, I'll at least be familiar with it. The VA is also giving me an EKG tomorrow AM. Again, hoping to avoid any surprises since I might not be able to have a military flight physical performed until after committing to the guard. 

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 12:04

Just got back from taking the SIFT. It took a little over 2 hours. I felt pretty good on the shapes, although they were a little harder than in the study book. I think I got through all of them. I also got through 28/50 of the hidden figures, I may have missed one or two. I also felt pretty good about the aviation knowledge, I think there were 2 or 3 I wasn't certain on, including a question about airspace. The math section lasted about 20 minutes, I got blindsided by a couple of the questions. I should have brushed up on Logs, but other than that I think I did fine. The mechanical section had some questions I had zero idea on that were definitely in physics major territory. 

All in all I pulled off a 75, which I guess I'm happy with. I definitely spent too much of my spring break studying for it, so I'm happy to get all the books put away now. I'll let you guys know how the meeting with the recruiter and WOSM goes. 

And I guess to clarify for anyone who finds this thread in the future, college ROTC departments CAN administer the sift to a civilian or prior service member. Bring some proof of social security number and ID with you. I had to call a couple ROTC units to find one willing to do so.

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 13:12

So I met with the recruiter and WOSM for one of the State's I'm looking at today. The recruiter called their flight surgeon while I was in the office, and he said he couldn't give the flight physical to anyone who was not currently a member. She is next going to try calling some regular army recruiters and see if they have any connections as far as getting me a flight physical. She also said if I come up with anything, to let her know and we'll make it happen. Does anyone have any knowledge on getting a flight physical for the guard prior to enlistment? I know some others have done it... so I know it's possible. Also, if I get a class 1 flight physical, but don't make it down to Rucker for over 18 months, when they redo the flight physical is it the full physical again, or is maintaining a class 1 less of a process than getting it initially?

It seems that the way they would like me to do it is to do a meet and greet at the unit as a civilian and talk with the members who sit on the state board prior to enlisting. From there I would enlist and go up for the next board the state runs, which I guess are Winter/Summer. So if I enlisted this summer, it would probably be next winter, though it would depend on dates and scheduling. They said they selected two this winter and they have about an 18 month wait for flight school slots at this point. For my planning purposes, if I were selected next winter, or even this summer, 18 months would be fine. This would be one of the things covered on a meet and greet I presume. 

 

As far as enlistment options it seems I have 2 as a Sergeant that would get me in at that unit: 15T and 92F, so Repairer or Petroleum Supply. If I enlisted as a 15T, I would delay my MOS school until what we all agreed would hopefully be beyond when I was picked up for WOCS. Worst case, I would go to the school AFTER having completed law school next summer (2018). I was told as long as I conclude the training within 24 months I can push it out as far as I need to. I would OJT as a 15T until that point. They also said that there is a re-class school for 15T that is only 8 weeks long. The other option, 92F, has a re-class school that can be broken up into two two-week segments, so essentially 2 ATs. The downside is 92F would be less useful to me as far as my end goal goes, and frankly I have no interest in the MOS. If I get forced to deploy as a 15T, I would be much happier than as a 92F. Interested to hear your thoughts on pushing the MOS school out as well as the 92F option.  

Thanks all

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 15:25

So the latest is MEPS denied me and I need a waiver from the National Guard Bureau. I have a combined 30% rating for a back strain, knee strain, and tinnitus. The back and knee are better, and my hearing is in the normal range. I sent up my MEPS paperwork with my full comp/pen evaluation from 5 years ago along with paperwork from a sports med doctor saying my back and knee were 100%. The imaging report on the comp/pen screening showed nothing, which is noted in the report. Looking at the MEPS guidelines, I'm pretty sure there is no reason they had to DQ me, but my recruiter said the CMO pretty much just does what they want. Hopefully the waiver is pretty straight forward. 

 

So that's the latest. I imagine I may need a waiver from aeromed as well, but I can't do the flight phys until I'm in the guard. I already had all the eye stuff done (the guard doc outsources it) and that is 100%. So just more waiting. 

 

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 09:25

Just an update: NGB Granted a waiver, I'll be going up to MEPS in a month or so (after finals). 

 

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 11:03

Just an update: NGB Granted a waiver, I'll be going up to MEPS in a month or so (after finals). 
 
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Congratulations, Mike. I'm guessing you don't have to do Basic. From a guy who graduated yesterday, I hate you for that.

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 11:42

haha, thanks. And congratulations on getting through basic.

 

And no, 13 weeks at Parris Island was apparently enough for the army lol. It was definitely enough for me.

 

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Posted 16 June 2017 - 17:44

Just an update. I went to MEPS for my physical and got a waiver to enlist in the Guard as a 15T. I'm doing a meet and greet with the unit sometime the next couple weeks, then hopefully getting sworn in and everything. Assuming I am good on the flight physical, which I can't take until I'm in, I should have my first opportunity to go before a board in September. From there it's 12-18 months until I get a school slot, or so I'm told. This is good, as I the bar exam is next summer. I graduate in May. 

 

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