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[StockTrader]

Got 3 emails last night. 

Warrant Officer Candidate, class 008, phase one. Report Date: Feb 22nd 2018, End March 12th. 
Warrant Officer Candidate, class 008, phase two. Report Date: March 12th 2018, End April 11th. 

Assuming the above is WOCS...? 

Aviation WOBC (Common Core) (Part A), Class 014, Report date April 22nd, 2018, End May 11th. 

And this, I'm assuming is the start of initial flight training? Ground school? 

I'm not in the Army so the website the links in the email take me too, and all this is very foreign to me. I'm still trying to figure out what I'm looking at. Glad I have some solid dates right here in front of me! However, that doesn't answer when I ship for BCT and that's before any of this. . . So I'm still trying to figure out how I'll know when BCT is and when I'll receive orders.

Now that I have this initial email, I may give HRC a call. Hopefully they can help me out. 

The countdown begins!

So your WOCS runs Feb 22 to Apr 11. WOBC is the first three weeks of vehicle ID/9mm range/doctrine stuff. Then dunker and sere. You get slotted for dunker and SERE once you arrive at B Co.

[wheelsup]

WHERE ARE MY EMAILS

[Schroedb87]

So your WOCS runs Feb 22 to Apr 11. WOBC is the first three weeks of vehicle ID/9mm range/doctrine stuff. Then dunker and sere. You get slotted for dunker and SERE once you arrive at B Co.

Question, as an AD USAF who doesn't need BCT, phase 1, or SERE, would I just show up for phase 2 than follow on to B Co for the dunker? If so, what's the next step, just right into flight training?

[Schroedb87]

WHERE ARE MY EMAILS

LOL, same!

[KyleGalloway]

WHERE ARE MY EMAILS

Couldn't agree more Wheelsup! Haha

[MuffinMan]

Question, as an AD USAF who doesn't need BCT, phase 1, or SERE, would I just show up for phase 2 than follow on to B Co for the dunker? If so, what's the next step, just right into flight training?

You got some serious strings pulled to skip all that it sounds like. We just had 2 AD USAF E7s that had to go through BCT and then the full 7 week (phase 1 and 2) of WOCS. 

 

For your situation though, you'll get here to Fort Rucker, get your initial issue and in-processing. Get complete the 5 week WOCS then follow onto B Co where they'll set your schedule regarding WOBC, dunker, and beginning primary. Stock Trader on here can speak more to the B Co side of things

[StockTrader]

Question, as an AD USAF who doesn't need BCT, phase 1, or SERE, would I just show up for phase 2 than follow on to B Co for the dunker? If so, what's the next step, just right into flight training?

If you dont need phase 1, you will be in a 5 week class. Definitely verify this. As a SERE bypass you will do WOBC, Dunker, and then jump right into flight training. You will probably move through very quickly. Make sure you have the certificate proving you completed SERE high risk/level C. No certificate and you will be doing it again.

[Schroedb87]

You got some serious strings pulled to skip all that it sounds like. We just had 2 AD USAF E7s that had to go through BCT and then the full 7 week (phase 1 and 2) of WOCS. 

Still waiting to find out but so far from the website and words passed from two guys that have went through from my AFSC withing the last year or two, I should be able to skip SERE (thankfully kept that certificate) since we go there right out of tech school, and get to skip BCT since we happen to be one of the USAF careerfields that get to bypass it.

As for phase one, I am still 50/50. A guy I'm talking to currently going through said it should be an option to bypass it with me completing NCOA/Course 15 (required to make E7 in the Air Force) but I'm still looking for further confirmation. He mentioned he chose to go through it but I guess they told him he could have skipped it if he spoke up about his training and just went to phase 2. I will definitely verify all of this of course but appreciate the help you guys have given.

StockTrader and MuffinMan, thanks for mentioning getting an initial issue. That was one of my questions if I needed to go out and buy a couple new OCP's, didn't think I needed to but was prepared to do so if needed.

[CG.Mech]

So your WOCS runs Feb 22 to Apr 11. WOBC is the first three weeks of vehicle ID/9mm range/doctrine stuff. Then dunker and sere. You get slotted for dunker and SERE once you arrive at B Co.

StockTrader, I really appreciate you clearing that all up for me. Thank you so much. 

Do you know how I will figure out when BCT is? Will I get another email? Or will the Army send me orders to this without any action on my part? Sister service here, and my command is relying on me for information regarding Army orders etc... I feel as though I need to call HRC to figure out the immediate path ahead (to BCT) now that I have my initial class dates for Rucker. 

Any insight or guidance regarding information about BCT would be appreciated if you could provide any. Otherwise I'll be seeking out points of contact in HRC to call some time next week.

Again, thank you for clarifying that last post of mine!!!

[StockTrader]

StockTrader, I really appreciate you clearing that all up for me. Thank you so much. 

Do you know how I will figure out when BCT is? Will I get another email? Or will the Army send me orders to this without any action on my part? Sister service here, and my command is relying on me for information regarding Army orders etc... I feel as though I need to call HRC to figure out the immediate path ahead (to BCT) now that I have my initial class dates for Rucker. 

Any insight or guidance regarding information about BCT would be appreciated if you could provide any. Otherwise I'll be seeking out points of contact in HRC to call some time next week.

Again, thank you for clarifying that last post of mine!!!

Unfortunately I am in the dark on that since they implemented the new 5 week BCT courses for prior service. I have no clue how they are handling that.

[GSDinDC]

StockTrader, I really appreciate you clearing that all up for me. Thank you so much. 
Do you know how I will figure out when BCT is? Will I get another email? Or will the Army send me orders to this without any action on my part? Sister service here, and my command is relying on me for information regarding Army orders etc... I feel as though I need to call HRC to figure out the immediate path ahead (to BCT) now that I have my initial class dates for Rucker. 
Any insight or guidance regarding information about BCT would be appreciated if you could provide any. Otherwise I'll be seeking out points of contact in HRC to call some time next week.
Again, thank you for clarifying that last post of mine!!!

Once you get your official notification letter from HRC*, it will instruct you to see a recruiter within 10 days or so. The recruiter essentially signs you up as a new recruit and schedules you to visit MEPS. Once you get to MEPS, they will get your class date for the PSBCT that is before whatever WOCS class you're in.

[debo2305]

StockTrader, I really appreciate you clearing that all up for me. Thank you so much. 

Do you know how I will figure out when BCT is? Will I get another email? Or will the Army send me orders to this without any action on my part? Sister service here, and my command is relying on me for information regarding Army orders etc... I feel as though I need to call HRC to figure out the immediate path ahead (to BCT) now that I have my initial class dates for Rucker. 

Any insight or guidance regarding information about BCT would be appreciated if you could provide any. Otherwise I'll be seeking out points of contact in HRC to call some time next week.

Again, thank you for clarifying that last post of mine!!!

 

You should be reporting to your local Army recruiter now that you have class dates for WOCS. They will process you as if you were a new enlistee, process you through MEPS, you will "DEP-in," and a guidance counselor will give you a PSBCT date. This is based on my experiences with the local Army recruiter, what they know, and the research I have done.  However, I'm still waiting on my magical email to come through.

[CG.Mech]

Thanks, guys. I'm sure your emails will arrive in the near future! 

[MuffinMan]

Still waiting to find out but so far from the website and words passed from two guys that have went through from my AFSC withing the last year or two, I should be able to skip SERE (thankfully kept that certificate) since we go there right out of tech school, and get to skip BCT since we happen to be one of the USAF careerfields that get to bypass it.

As for phase one, I am still 50/50. A guy I'm talking to currently going through said it should be an option to bypass it with me completing NCOA/Course 15 (required to make E7 in the Air Force) but I'm still looking for further confirmation. He mentioned he chose to go through it but I guess they told him he could have skipped it if he spoke up about his training and just went to phase 2. I will definitely verify all of this of course but appreciate the help you guys have given.

StockTrader and MuffinMan, thanks for mentioning getting an initial issue. That was one of my questions if I needed to go out and buy a couple new OCP's, didn't think I needed to but was prepared to do so if need

 

Definitely won't need to purchase new OCPs. All inter-service transfers get an initial issue when they arrive to HHC and get in-processed to post, though there may be a few things you'll want to purchase in order to have some extras going into class. (I imagine you're coming over as an aviator and not tech meaning you'll be PCS'd here).

 

The best way to get a final/concrete answer regarding if you will be able to complete phase one via DL is to contact the XO at HHC here. DM me if you want to contact details or have any other questions. 

[blue2green]

Danner is having a 25% off sale that ends today, just in case any of you are wanting to purchase boots and break them in before WOCS.

[CG.Mech]

Hi guys,

For SISTER SERVICE APPLICANTS, I have an update for you:

I just contacted Warrant Officer Accessions HRC about PSBCT (Prior Service Basic Combat Training) which is held in Ft. Leonard Wood, MO. 

She will be sending out our instruction emails within a week, or the next depending on how long it takes her to draft everything up. 

After we get the email, we'll have two weeks to visit with an Army Recruiter who will set everything up based off instructions for them within the email we will be receiving. 

So, within the next two weeks us Sister Service applicants will have PSBCT instructions allowing us to set up our BCT date. 

Hope this update helps alleviate any confusion or uncertainty! 

 

[Schroedb87]

Hi guys,

For SISTER SERVICE APPLICANTS, I have an update for you:

I just contacted Warrant Officer Accessions HRC about PSBCT (Prior Service Basic Combat Training) which is held in Ft. Leonard Wood, MO. 

She will be sending out our instruction emails within a week, or the next depending on how long it takes her to draft everything up. 

After we get the email, we'll have two weeks to visit with an Army Recruiter who will set everything up based off instructions for them within the email we will be receiving. 

So, within the next two weeks us Sister Service applicants will have PSBCT instructions allowing us to set up our BCT date. 

Hope this update helps alleviate any confusion or uncertainty! 

 

Look forward to the email, but I'm deployed until August so will need to work with them regarding class dates. Also need to get in touch with them so I can confirm that I don't need any basic training coming from a battlefield airman AFSC, per the website I should be able to go right past that part.

I was planning on waiting for an email to contact HRC, but should I jump the gUn and advice them of my current deployment? Again, I should be home mid Aug.

Thanks CG for looking out.

[GSDinDC]

Hi guys,

For SISTER SERVICE APPLICANTS, I have an update for you:

I just contacted Warrant Officer Accessions HRC about PSBCT (Prior Service Basic Combat Training) which is held in Ft. Leonard Wood, MO. 

She will be sending out our instruction emails within a week, or the next depending on how long it takes her to draft everything up. 

After we get the email, we'll have two weeks to visit with an Army Recruiter who will set everything up based off instructions for them within the email we will be receiving. 

So, within the next two weeks us Sister Service applicants will have PSBCT instructions allowing us to set up our BCT date. 

Hope this update helps alleviate any confusion or uncertainty! 

 

Why ask the board your original question if you're just going to ask HRC anyway?

[CG.Mech]

Why ask the board your original question if you're just going to ask HRC anyway?

When I called HRC, I was looking for a time frame, and she gave me that AND confirmed the part that I had already learned from this board: instructions to go to a recruiter and have them set up your BCT. 

[CG.Mech]

Look forward to the email, but I'm deployed until August so will need to work with them regarding class dates. Also need to get in touch with them so I can confirm that I don't need any basic training coming from a battlefield airman AFSC, per the website I should be able to go right past that part.

I was planning on waiting for an email to contact HRC, but should I jump the gUn and advice them of my current deployment? Again, I should be home mid Aug.

Thanks CG for looking out.

I can't speak for your situation unfortunately, but I'm sure someone on here will have good advice on what to do regarding your question.

 don't like jumping the gun, like I did today but I was uncertain about when to expect an email as there just is not a lot of guidance for the sister service guys about this. I get so dang worried that I'm overlooking something that I have to seek confirmation lol I have these nightmare visions of me missing some detail, showing up and they're like, "who are you?" haha

My gut tells me that now that you know when to expect an email, wait until you get it before you call them to figure out the details of your situation.