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#1 Mchammer

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Posted 18 March 2017 - 22:14

Hi everyone,

I am a high school senior who is very interested in the Army's high school to flight school scholarship/program.

A little about me, I an attending an instate university in the fall and participating in NROTC. The marine corps is my first choice of branch but I am looking for every opportunity where I can serve and lead the troops that keep our country safe, hopefully while flying rotary wing aircraft. I was not interested in the Army at first, but I have worked with a WO5 who will write me a LOR and who advised me to apply for the board. Let me be clear that I am NOT applying for this as a 'back up plan' if my other plans 'don't work out'- it is something that I am genuinely interested in and committing myself to whole-heartedly.

I have been in touch with a recruiter but we have not met in person yet, I am meeting with him next week

My high school GPA is 3.8, I took the pre-asvab and got a 91... I have not taken the APFT

What I'm really looking for is some advice on my application, anything I should do or know or prepare for before I meet with the recruiter... I have been working on physical fitness and studying for the asvab, but I don't know a lot about this program.

Thank you in advance if you read all of this.

 

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#2 zack.colorado

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 23:31

You've come to the right place. It sounds like you want general information. Take some time to read through previous threads on this site. There is tons of good information on here and lots of street to seaters have already asked and answered the questions that you may have or will soon have.
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Posted 21 March 2017 - 00:13

This is how my WOFT application went starting back in May. I first talked with a recruiter who had me fill out the standard Army paper work, places you've lived, people you know, ever gotten a ticket Etc. Next, I went and took the ASVAB, then went to MEPS to get a basic entrance physical. Took some time to study for the SIFT test before returning to MEPS again to actually take the SIFT. Spent about two month completing both phases of the Aviation divisions flight physical, passed my PT test, then returned to MEPS again for my security clearance interview and battalion board. During this time I was also working on typing and writing my 1 page "Why I want to be an Army Aviator" essay, acquiring at least 3 letter of recommendation (max of 5), and building a resume. Got that all submitted about a month ago. Now just waiting for the call to hopefully let me know I have been accepted. I think that should be the basic run down of the program....

Main piece of advice is be prepared to hurry up and wait things go by the Armys timeline not your own. Also, most recruiters I have heard about have never done a WOFT application before. You will need to be the expert on the process. This forum amongst others on the internet are great to gather more information about what you need to do. That is just the general overview so if you have questions feel free to ask!
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Posted 21 March 2017 - 07:45

Zack is right. This forum is a gold mine. It will take you some time to read through the threads, but if you're into it time will fly! Check the warrant officer recruiting website too. http://www.usarec.ar...ant/index.shtml

Good luck
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Posted 21 March 2017 - 17:02

Thanks everybody... I'm in it for the long hall, I doubt I could have a package together any sooner than July. The biggest thing with this, or any military service in my future, is going to be my medical because I went through a lot of surgeries as a kid following an automobile accident. But we'll see. I'll update how my meeting with the recruiter went. MC



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Posted 23 March 2017 - 19:12

I just got back from meeting with my recruiter and all I have to say is wow. He really blew me away, he's seriously the best recruiter I've ever met with. I've talked to recruiters from various branches before and when I told them I wasn't necessarily interested in enlisting right out of high school, they basically told me to take a hike. But this guy was awesome. We talked for two and a half hours. His recruiting office is a bit of a commute but it's worth it to me. We also talked about different paths to aviation, including enlistment. I'm open to enlistment, I've always been open to enlistment, as long as I can get my bachelor's eventually - which I know I can.

 

I took the pre-asvab and got an 85, next thursday I'm taking the piquette (not sure how you spell it? But it's the proctored asvab) and then next Friday I can do the confirmation test. After that it's MEPS and the PFT, and I need to start contacting people for letters of recommendation. My god, that's going to take forever. 



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Posted 23 March 2017 - 20:00

Slow down man... The "street to seat" program does not require your enlisting in the traditional sense. You will need to take the ASVAB and everything, so that much I'd keep working on... And It's worth it to study to be as competitive in every area as possible. Be aware, however, that "enlisting" in another MOS first is NOT the street to seat program, and very well could wind up with you doing something else for 4 years. Make sure you and he are talking about the same thing. 

Best of luck

 

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 20:10

Thank you Mike, and I know it doesn't, I just mean that I know the WOFT isn't a guaranteed deal and I'm prepared to take another path to army aviation such as ROTC or OCS or even enlistment.



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Posted 23 March 2017 - 21:49

All are great options, although for active army aviation I don't know that enlistment will get you there faster. A lot of posters here have been keeping the forum up to date on selection rates and "resumes" for street to seat. The more experienced members should chime in shortly, I'm just reiterating what I've read.

If enlistment doesn't bother you and you want/need to bolster your resume to get selected, consider the national guard to pay for your state school tuition and consider doing an aviation related job. That will also allow you to get boot camp out of the way and gain some familiarity woth your future job.

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 07:22

If enlistment doesn't bother you....consider doing an aviation related job. That will also allow you to get boot camp out of the way and gain some familiarity with your future job.

Mike


Full disclosure, I am about 50% complete with my packet so take this as you will.

Mike has a great point. I was enlisted in the Navy as a maintainer(AM). Having the aviation related job has made the learning curve less steep. Most of my time was fixed wing, but I spend about a year on MH-60S. Helicopters are completely different animals. There is a lot to them and I'm glad I have a basic understanding of them, albeit limited.

I finished my enlistment, went to college on the GI Bill, now going for WOFT. I took the loooooong route. A lot of it was my own fault, but if flying is what you want to do, there are some great programs. Army has WOFT, USCG has CSPI and WiFi, USN/USMC has STA-21. USAF is weird, they are short on pilots but don't want to let anyone in(I'm sure there are reasons I am unaware of, they didn't like me, but I'm "old"). Being young you have a variety of options.

Enlistment isn't a bad move, but be careful and keep your eye on the prize. Anyway, that's my two cents. There is a breadth of experience on this forum and I have learned a ton in my short time here so stick around, and read a lot.

Good luck in whatever you decide to do.
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Posted 24 March 2017 - 10:05

You also may as well start studying for the SIFT along with the ASVAB. Grab a study guide, there will be some overlap with the math, and grab the FAA helicopter flying* manual and read it so you understand it. 

 

There is a good thread with info on study material. Remember, with both these tests you need a minimum, but with anything in the military you always want to be as competitive as possible.

Mike



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Posted 24 March 2017 - 11:03

Mike & Marty, thank you for some great advice.

 

I will start studying for the SIFT as soon as I can find a study guide.

 

My eyes are definitely on the prize, but I just see it as a marathon, not a sprint.



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Posted 30 March 2017 - 16:03

I just took the piquette (not sure how you spell it but it's the official ASVAB) and got a 92. Next week I'm doing the 20 question check test (not sure the official title for it, but it's just to make sure you get the same score). After that its MEPS and the PFT.

And as of yet I don't have any letters of rec from the military folks that I asked.... So I just need to keep working on that and keep waiting.

And if I don't get WOFT, I'm going to go into the reserves.

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Posted 30 March 2017 - 17:51

I'd caution you against that. If you don't have much else going on in life, the reserves won't be that satisfying, and without a deployment, won't pay for college. The Guard on the other hand will usually cover your tuition and fees at an in-state school. Guard units also have aviation components (I believe there may be a couple in the reserves) where you could be a mechanic, and then apply to be a pilot from within. 

 

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Posted 30 March 2017 - 18:28

Thanks Mike, I haven't signed or agreed to anything so I will definitely look into that.

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 08:19

Be mindful that regular Army recruiters handle Reserve and Active duty. Guard recruiters are a separate entity that you will need to talk to if you decide that is the route you want to go. The regular recruiters have an interest in you going Reserve or Active, you going Guard isn't something they are likely to encourage. 

 

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Posted 16 April 2017 - 04:01

A little update, recently I learned that I got an internship with my local congressman's office for the summer. At the end of the internship, I can get a letter of recommendation from the congressman. He's a politician now but before this he was a Naval pilot flying F-18s.

I think having a LOR like that would be a huge asset to my WOFT packet. From what I understand, it's really important to have good letters of rec from military aviators and currently the lineup I have for letters from military people isn't stellar.

The internship isn't over until the first week of August. I'm going to ask my recruiter his advice but I really think my WOFT packet could benefit from this type of LOR.

So in that case, I wouldn't be boarded until September, which is fine by me. Everything is still up in the air right now though. Just wanted to share. MC





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