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#41 Scyther

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 18:26

Apache>737

 

(first math lesson done)

 

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 19:07

Actually, the worst thing that can happen is, you get in,...and then hate it! :(

Let's say he gets in and hates it.... so then he gets out 6 years later with a commercial licenses and ~1000 hours of turbine time, maybe some time in combat, and a free ride for 4-5 years of college if that's the direction he wants to go(where he will get paid a healthy housing stipend to attend), some veterans benefits for life, and definitely some cool stories.

 

I 100% promise the OP that even if he has the ideal military experience there will be many days where suck starting a rifle will seem like the best idea he ever had. Nature of the beast. 

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 20:20

Modern tendency towards asymmetric combat, bush wars, makes it even more likely that an Army aviator will be an ad hoc grunt. Any aviation installation (or 1 parked aircraft) makes an inviting, high value target for resourceful bad guys. It's kinda like they intend to surprise and kill you.
Or you could be put in the dirt with a broken aircraft. The bad guys in the vicinity are real interested in those...
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Just a pilot (retired, so I have a LOT of time)...


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Posted 09 January 2018 - 21:12

Apache>737
 
(first math lesson done)
 
:lol:


Cobra > Apache = Apache's have too many blades.

Then again,...

Bell 222 > Cobra = Because I can fly a 222 solo and I wouldn't have to wear a helmet!

Come to think of it though,...

R22 > Bell 222 = Because I can't afford a Bell 222!

,...damn, math sucks! :)
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Posted 09 January 2018 - 21:14

AH-1Zs are 4 bladed...

As a former Marine I do have a soft spot for Cobras and super hueys.

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 21:31

Cobra > Apache = Apache's have too many blades.
Then again,...
Bell 222 > Cobra = Because I can fly a 222 solo and I wouldn't have to wear a helmet!
Come to think of it though,...
R22 > Bell 222 = Because I can't afford a Bell 222!
,...damn, math sucks! :)


I can fly an Apache solo. Once.
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Posted 10 January 2018 - 10:04

Let's say he gets in and hates it.... so then he gets out 6 years later with a commercial licenses and ~1000 hours of turbine time, maybe some time in combat, and a free ride for 4-5 years of college if that's the direction he wants to go(where he will get paid a healthy housing stipend to attend), some veterans benefits for life, and definitely some cool stories.

 

I 100% promise the OP that even if he has the ideal military experience there will be many days where suck starting a rifle will seem like the best idea he ever had. Nature of the beast. 

Mike

 

This. Maybe it's because I'm still young and don't have a family but the idea of working in a safe, sterile environment sounds a bit meh. I like a bit of action, adventure and calculated risk. I'll get more interesting stories/experiences from flying an Army helicopter than I will flying an airliner... That's why I gotta go for it while I still have the chance! And like I said before I want to feel like I'm part of something bigger than myself where I get the chance to help people.


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Posted 10 January 2018 - 10:59

,...yes but the stories you'll have as an airline jockey will involve stewardesses!
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Posted 10 January 2018 - 11:09

 

This. Maybe it's because I'm still young and don't have a family but the idea of working in a safe, sterile environment sounds a bit meh. I like a bit of action, adventure and calculated risk. I'll get more interesting stories/experiences from flying an Army helicopter than I will flying an airliner... That's why I gotta go for it while I still have the chance! And like I said before I want to feel like I'm part of something bigger than myself where I get the chance to help people.

 

 

When you're imprisoned in an African country because the ground crew, attracted by blood dripping from the aircraft, found a body with severed arm buried under 12 tons of cash in the lower cargo, it's hard to make the case that you'll find more interesting stories elsewhere.   Ask the MD-11 crew.

 

At some point, sooner than later once you're working for a living, it's not about the stories, and later rather than sooner, it's all about the security.

 

The seniority you throw away in favor of stories will cost you millions on the back end of that career. Then again, it's hard to feed a family with stories.


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Posted 10 January 2018 - 11:10

As a former Marine...

 

Is there such a thing, among the living?



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Posted 10 January 2018 - 13:55

Former yes. Ex, no, unless dishonarably booted.

Money aint everything. I'm in my last year at a top law school. If active aviation were or becomes my only option to fly I'd take it. I know what I can live off of, and W1 with BAH is more than I've ever made. Can't bring your millions to the grave with you. To each their own.

Also, last I checked the .mil IS working for a living. With tons of benefits. A relative degree of certainty. And a half decent pay check.

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 16:06

For what it's worth, heading to the airlines is a step in the right direction for my family and me but joining the Army when I did played a pivotal role in ending up where we are today.  I have a lot of pride in what I've done with the Army and I highly recommend pursuing that path to anyone who is a hard worker and wants to fly.


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Posted 20 January 2018 - 02:59

I genuinely love my job- it would be very tough to leave but at the same time I feel pretty  lonely/miserable in my personal life and I can't afford to fly as a hobby...  

 

I will say, if you love your job, you should keep your job. Specifically, I believe, loving your job is a blessing and I say this after having a lifetime of jobs in various fields…. Therefore, you should really think about why you would consider leaving a job you love in order to ‘attempt’ to enter the aviation business or the military….. In fact, this endeavor sounds to me to be a little foolish…… Moreover, seeking advice of this level of importance (life changing) on the internet is more than a little risky…… Maybe consider discussing this with someone close to you who is a shareholder in your best interest….. Lastly, if you straighten out your personal life, you may feel differently about what you are inquiring about….


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Posted 20 January 2018 - 09:01

 Moreover, seeking advice of this level of importance (life changing) on the internet is more than a little risky Maybe consider discussing this with someone close to you who is a shareholder in your best interest.. Lastly, if you straighten out your personal life, you may feel differently about what you are inquiring about.

Ive been lucky to make some actual real world contacts over the last month- two major airline pilots and a National Guard helo pilot. All of them are very passionate about flying and keen to support wannabes like me. When it comes to my family I feel sorry for em because I havent shut up about flying over the past 20 years haha.

I definitely wouldnt base such a massive decision solely off of internet advice but VR has been a great place to start!

Yes, I love being a firefighter but theres so much other stuff Id love to do and flying is numero uno on the list. It always has been!

Its still going to be tough to make a change but no guts no glory.
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Posted 20 January 2018 - 12:12

Hmm, I just started a new job. Its with Fedex Freight, a company that took me nine interviews (between four different locations) over the past two years. I've worked for both Fedex Ground and Fedex Express, but this is the side that's always been at the top of my (delivery boy) list,...mainly because they have benefits and (unlike Express who also has benefits) I get to drive the big boy trucks, plus in a few years I can transfer to Hawaii!

I was also recently offered a job flying tours, and I gotta tell ya, for a minute there I was willing to throw away a good job (a job I could take to retirement) just to follow an old (misinterpreted) "kinda",...I don't want to say dream, but well,...job I thought might be a decent way to run out the clock with?

Then I started reminiscing about my brief time at Helislave (not to mention reminding myself that I'd always be flying with people in the cockpit,...and have to be nice to them) and I quickly returned to my senses!

Yeah, I suppose the "allure" of flying for a living can be quite powerful, but give up a job I love to do it?

You know sometimes I feel like one of those chicks who every so often thinks about getting back together with an old boyfriend who always treated her like sh*t,...until her friends slap her upside the head!
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Aaaaaaaany day now! :D

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 12:40

,...oh yeah, almost forgot.

I too wanted to be a pilot ever since I was a wee lad. After I finally became one there was a long time where if I went more than a week without flying I'd get ancy!

Now its fifteen years later and well,...

I went up about a week ago (first flight in over two months) and it was like,...I don't really feel like flying, but its been over two months, I guess I should probably go up?

The magic wears off dude!
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Aaaaaaaany day now! :D

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 13:07

Ah nice one on your new job Butters, are you driving semi-trucks now?

They call em artic (articulated) lorries in the UK. 🤪
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Posted 20 January 2018 - 17:32

Ah nice one on your new job Butters, are you driving semi-trucks now?

They call em artic (articulated) lorries in the UK. 🤪

Just call me bigrigbutters goodbuddies

,...now excuse me while I take a ten one-hundred! :)
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Posted 20 January 2018 - 21:22

Ive been lucky to make some actual real world contacts over the last month- two major airline pilots and a National Guard helo pilot. All of them are very passionate about flying and keen to support wannabes like me. When it comes to my family I feel sorry for em because I havent shut up about flying over the past 20 years haha.

I definitely wouldnt base such a massive decision solely off of internet advice but VR has been a great place to start!

Yes, I love being a firefighter but theres so much other stuff Id love to do and flying is numero uno on the list. It always has been!

Its still going to be tough to make a change but no guts no glory.


I. Would. Never. Ever. Leave. A. Job. I. Loved. PERIOD. And I love flying, still believe that.
Especially not for an unknown field.

If you can afford the training costs, you can afford to fly part-time, dip your toes in the water. If you still want to fly instead of firefight after doing that, good luck. Or you could try heroin, I think it's cheaper and steadier work...
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Just a pilot (retired, so I have a LOT of time)...


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Posted 21 January 2018 - 03:16

Hmm, I just started a new job. Its with Fedex Freight, a company that took me nine interviews (between four different locations) over the past two years. I've worked for both Fedex Ground and Fedex Express, but this is the side that's always been at the top of my (delivery boy) list,...mainly because they have benefits and (unlike Express who also has benefits) I get to drive the big boy trucks, plus in a few years I can transfer to Hawaii!

 

 

Congrats Butters!  That's a really great gig.






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