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#21 ByteFlighter

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Posted 29 September 2018 - 18:12

 

https://usacac.army....ndar_050918.pdf

 

 

I did find this, so I am wondering if it is true.  National Guard Bureau wont be issuing "street to seat" dates till October 1st.  According to the email I received last week from them.  I am wondering if they will stick me in a 7 week or 5 week.  I guess it is a 7 week course I can ballpark my basic dates.

 

I am seeing conflicting Information on ATRRS. The document you posted seems to align with course start and ends dates as 7 week classes in FY19 on ATRRS.

 

Are my colleagues on here saying those 7 week reservations in FY19 are changing to 5 week?



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Posted 29 September 2018 - 19:36

 
I am seeing conflicting Information on ATRRS. The document you posted seems to align with course start and ends dates as 7 week classes in FY19 on ATRRS.
 
Are my colleagues on here saying those 7 week reservations in FY19 are changing to 5 week?


Yes, as Anthony2447 stated, classes 19-02/19-03/19-04 are the pilot classes to test the new curriculum that condenses 7 weeks into 5. If those classes go well, there will not be anymore 7 week courses. All the reservations will be adjusted in ATRRS for those with 7 week slots.

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Posted 29 September 2018 - 22:30

Yes, as Anthony2447 stated, classes 19-02/19-03/19-04 are the pilot classes to test the new curriculum that condenses 7 weeks into 5. If those classes go well, there will not be anymore 7 week courses. All the reservations will be adjusted in ATRRS for those with 7 week slots.

 

Ah gotcha.

 

I'm curious how they are just going to shorten to 5 weeks for classes that are already scheduled and reserved...



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Posted 30 September 2018 - 06:35

Are we looking at a delay of start by 2 weeks or an earlier graduation?

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 09:14

 

 

Any idea what the Academic focus will be? I know Mr. Adams was trying to make it more writing and public speaking focused when he talked with us. More college credits and basic skills than the random stuff they had been teaching. The rest of the changes sound pretty good.

I assuming its going to be all the DL classes they now have to squeeze in. Nothing was mentioned about additional writing and public speaking.



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Posted 02 October 2018 - 10:08

I am scheduled for the JAN 3 Class not sure if that is 19-02 or 19-03. When I called the school house about some other things I was told by the 1SG that even though it says it's 7 weeks in ATTRS, they are conducting a 5 week course. How they will adjust I have no idea. I am just happy have been selected. Anyone have any insight on the Land Nav? Is it basic? Why are people failing? 


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Posted 02 October 2018 - 10:40

The Jan 3rd class is 19-004. Ill be in there with you. Im glad to hear its going to be a 5 week.
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Posted 02 October 2018 - 11:20

Is your start date the same, or graduation date the same? Is this thing becoming more of a gentleman's course?

 

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 12:13

Is your start date the same, or graduation date the same? Is this thing becoming more of a gentleman's course?

 

Mike

I am really not sure to be honest. I assume they will give me that info When I get there because according to ATTRS I am still scheduled for 7 weeks. 



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Posted 02 October 2018 - 12:16

The Jan 3rd class is 19-004. Ill be in there with you. Im glad to hear its going to be a 5 week.


Awesome! I look forward to seeing you there! It's been over a year now and I cannot wait to finally become a Warrant!!!!!!



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Posted 02 October 2018 - 14:52

I was hoping to be in the Jan class (was originally told Nov or Jan), but currently waiting on April. still crossing my fingers for a shortfall space. Perhaps more likely once all the classes become 5 weeks. April will be 12 months since I came back in.

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 23:21

I am scheduled for the JAN 3 Class not sure if that is 19-02 or 19-03. When I called the school house about some other things I was told by the 1SG that even though it says it's 7 weeks in ATTRS, they are conducting a 5 week course. How they will adjust I have no idea. I am just happy have been selected. Anyone have any insight on the Land Nav? Is it basic? Why are people failing? 



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Posted 02 October 2018 - 23:22

Land nav is a JOKE! You can get through it without ever using the compass... just follow the road and use the satellite view map they give you.

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 15:19

Land nav is a JOKE! You can get through it without ever using the compass... just follow the road and use the satellite view map they give you.


My landnav legit felt like a nice one hour morning walk through the forest. Most points I saw from the road but did the whole land nav thing just to verify. Can confirm, it was a joke.
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Posted 04 October 2018 - 13:19

My landnav legit felt like a nice one hour morning walk through the forest. Most points I saw from the road but did the whole land nav thing just to verify. Can confirm, it was a joke.

 

When I did landnav there, 3 of the points were the same from the practice day...hahahahhah



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Posted 04 October 2018 - 15:08

 
When I did landnav there, 3 of the points were the same from the practice day...hahahahhah


They dont do a practice day out on the course anymore, they do a classroom instruction the whole afternoon the day before the exercise and then go straight into the course the next day.

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 16:02

That sucks, we had classroom, practice and the real thing.



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Posted Yesterday, 03:49

Starting with 19-02, there will be no more 7 week classes.

That's interesting, I'm supposed to be in 19-02 as a Guard guy. They're trying to get this DL stuff for me ( I know, danger close) and I don't think they have a clue about everything you're saying. My little welcome aboard packet from the Primary TAC made no mention of class duration.

 

 

Not too sure. Haven't seen too many street to seat lately. Last class I know that had a bunch of them was class 18-13.

Yeah, my co-worker was in that one. She was street to seat and they had her in their little "Starship Candidates" video on Youtube.

 

Here is some information they put out at 1st WOCC

 

There will be 3 pilot classes 19-02-19-04 with the intent of changing the rest to 5 week courses.

-There will be 5 exams instead of 3 (the 2 usual DL ones)

-No more STAFFEX/MDMP

-Moving up LANDNAV/LRC to week 2ish (too many people failing LANDNAV)

-Less SGL time and more of a focus on academics

 

Like everything in the Army everything changes so don't shoot the messenger if it changes.

 

This is really interesting, I've been kind of stressing about the DL since it hasn't come back for me on ATTRS but maybe I just end up doing it in-class.



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Posted Yesterday, 04:01

That's interesting, I'm supposed to be in 19-02 as a Guard guy. They're trying to get this DL stuff for me ( I know, danger close) and I don't think they have a clue about everything you're saying. My little welcome aboard packet from the Primary TAC made no mention of class duration.
 
Yeah, my co-worker was in that one. She was street to seat and they had her in their little "Starship Candidates" video on Youtube.
 
 
This is really interesting, I've been kind of stressing about the DL since it hasn't come back for me on ATTRS but maybe I just end up doing it in-class.


Yes starting with 19-02, you will do the DL as part of the class. Im sure of this, as right now in HHC there is a candidate from the guard that was supposed to start class with 19-01 but did not because that candidate did not complete the DL prior to arriving here for class. That candidate got held over and will be attending 19-02 because of the changes that put the all the DL into class.
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Posted Yesterday, 17:00

Thanks for the reply. That sure is interesting, my WOSM seems the think that I'm still doing that.





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