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#1 droz88

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Posted 01 November 2018 - 13:57

Hello all,

 

I have been a member here for a little while now.  I've pursued the WOFT dream in the past but it did not work out.  However, I am still at it as I am only 30 years old and still within the window of opportunity.

 

My intention is to join the national guard and pursue WOFT.  Since I'm still single, I am able to relocate to anywhere in the country.  I have two questions:

 

1.  What are some good states to join that are perhaps in need to WOFT applicants?  Any states to avoid for any reasons?

 

2.  What is a good MOS in case WOFT doesn't work out?

 

By the time I move, enlist, and am able to put a packet in, I'll be 31-32 years old.  I probably have one shot left and if it doesn't work out again I will be stuck in my original MOS.  So, I'd like to ask you guys and girls for your input at what you think a good alternative MOS would be in case I can't be an aviator. 

 

Thank you in advance.  


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#2 Thedude

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Posted 01 November 2018 - 14:17

If you want to fly don’t enlist in the Guard, just submit another packet for selection as a civilian. If you enlist in an aviation MOS you’ll probably wait around six months to go to basic and then spend another 6 months in basic/AIT. You’ll be 31 before getting to your first Guard unit and then will need to spend some time proving yourself in order to earn the recommendations needed for your packet. You’d probably be close to 33 or past and need an age waiver before getting a packet submitted to the board.

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Posted 01 November 2018 - 15:48

Alaska.


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I told my mom I wanted to be a pilot when I grew up.  She told me I couldn't do both.

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Posted 01 November 2018 - 17:32

Choose a state that has the airframe you want if youre going to go this route.

I enlisted as 15Q, Air Traffic Control, and it really paid off. Got a job with the FAA as a center controller.
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Posted 01 November 2018 - 17:35

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Posted 02 November 2018 - 13:59

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Gonna Leave this here.

 

There is no vaccine against stupid comments. You gotta give them some credit for there time. Those guys are risking there lives at the border too. And they get deployed over seas. I've seen several volunteer to go-to Iraq.



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Posted 02 November 2018 - 14:25

I appreciate the responses so far.  As far as states go I am still open for suggestions but, since I'm willing to fly anything, I will just go to whatever state seems like it would work out best in aspects other than the military.

 

As far as MOS's, let me rephrase my question.  If you had a burning desire to serve, but could not be a pilot, what MOS would you shoot for as an alternative?



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Posted 02 November 2018 - 14:34

I appreciate the responses so far.  As far as states go I am still open for suggestions but, since I'm willing to fly anything, I will just go to whatever state seems like it would work out best in aspects other than the military.

 

As far as MOS's, let me rephrase my question.  If you had a burning desire to serve, but could not be a pilot, what MOS would you shoot for as an alternative?

Well we want you to-go pick up a gun. That's the job nobody wants to do. Because it's the actual fighting. 97% of these other jobs are non-combat rolls. So you can do the good jobs, unless you have the bravest soul I have ever seen. Besides, Muhammad who did that too. And changed the way Saudi Arabia fought wars. With no prior military experience and a sword.



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Posted 02 November 2018 - 14:54

Hello all,

 

I have been a member here for a little while now.  I've pursued the WOFT dream in the past but it did not work out.  However, I am still at it as I am only 30 years old and still within the window of opportunity.

 

My intention is to join the national guard and pursue WOFT.  Since I'm still single, I am able to relocate to anywhere in the country.  I have two questions:

 

1.  What are some good states to join that are perhaps in need to WOFT applicants?  Any states to avoid for any reasons?

 

2.  What is a good MOS in case WOFT doesn't work out?

 

By the time I move, enlist, and am able to put a packet in, I'll be 31-32 years old.  I probably have one shot left and if it doesn't work out again I will be stuck in my original MOS.  So, I'd like to ask you guys and girls for your input at what you think a good alternative MOS would be in case I can't be an aviator. 

 

Thank you in advance.  

SC has a need for 64 pilots right now....



#10 Pluto

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Posted 02 November 2018 - 15:24

SC has a need for 64 pilots right now....

Yes, You can get in an AH-64 Apache. It's actual combat. And a bit safer than say being on the ground. But that's not what we care about. We care about the fact that you actually had the bravery to go out there on the front lines in that thing, and did your part.

 

For that, I solute them.



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Posted 02 November 2018 - 16:29

 

 

As far as MOS's, let me rephrase my question.  If you had a burning desire to serve, but could not be a pilot, what MOS would you shoot for as an alternative?

 

The best thing you can do is really think about what interests you have, then pick a MOS that match those interests. Do you enjoy a more Tech environment, if so look at the Signal Corps or Cyber. Mechanics interest you, then there are plenty of options, Logistics?, there is Transportation and Quartermaster. Once you have taken your ASVAB you'll have a better idea of what is available to you, not all MOS are available all the time and you may have to wait longer for the one you want.

 

I'm not really sure where the comment comes from that nobody wants to "pick up a gun". At least among Commissioned Officers, Infantry is the most sought after branch of the Army, I'm sure that runs true for enlisted as well. You just have to decide if that's the job you want, while it has the Hooah factor, other MOS may give you more practical training for civilian employment since you would be in the Guard.

 

Just as a side note, I don't think anyone would want someone to "Solute" them.....whatever that is.


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Posted 02 November 2018 - 16:41

 
The best thing you can do is really think about what interests you have, then pick a MOS that match those interests. Do you enjoy a more Tech environment, if so look at the Signal Corps or Cyber. Mechanics interest you, then there are plenty of options, Logistics?, there is Transportation and Quartermaster. Once you have taken your ASVAB you'll have a better idea of what is available to you, not all MOS are available all the time and you may have to wait longer for the one you want.
 
I'm not really sure where the comment comes from that nobody wants to "pick up a gun". At least among Commissioned Officers, Infantry is the most sought after branch of the Army, I'm sure that runs true for enlisted as well. You just have to decide if that's the job you want, while it has the Hooah factor, other MOS may give you more practical training for civilian employment since you would be in the Guard.
 
Just as a side note, I don't think anyone would want someone to "Solute" them.....whatever that is.


He is just saying that because he doesn't have the guts to go pick up a rifle. Nor does he know what its like to risk his life for the freedoms he enjoys sitting at the base. Doing a good job like photo journalist. So he put that rifle in sombody somebody else's hands like a coward.

You better be thankful we don't fight wars like they used to. Or the draft would make all of us do that job eventually. Meaning after the last wave dies. So yes, it's a job nobody really wants to do. And I respect them for putting there life on the line with me. On the ground.

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Posted 02 November 2018 - 17:22

  Since I'm still single, I am able to relocate to anywhere in the country.  I have two questions:

 

 

I forgot to mention, since you are willing to relocate you'll have a better chance of getting the MOS you want. Having the ability to look at different NG units, you can see what MOS slots they need or have available.

 

You can apply to WOFT from any MOS, one tip though would be to try and find a unit that has Aviation, this way you will have better access to those you will want LOR's from. Working within an aviation MOS will give you closer contacts but it isn't a requirement. 

 

Just make sure you choose something that interests you in case you are unable to move to WOFT. Don't just look at the MOS title, research what type of follow up training it offers, will that training help you in your civilian job while you're in the NG and after you get out. Some MOS may not seem all that glamorous but the training you receive can really help outside the Army, look at the total picture.



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Posted 02 November 2018 - 20:25

 

I forgot to mention, since you are willing to relocate you'll have a better chance of getting the MOS you want. Having the ability to look at different NG units, you can see what MOS slots they need or have available.

 

You can apply to WOFT from any MOS, one tip though would be to try and find a unit that has Aviation, this way you will have better access to those you will want LOR's from. Working within an aviation MOS will give you closer contacts but it isn't a requirement. 

 

Just make sure you choose something that interests you in case you are unable to move to WOFT. Don't just look at the MOS title, research what type of follow up training it offers, will that training help you in your civilian job while you're in the NG and after you get out. Some MOS may not seem all that glamorous but the training you receive can really help outside the Army, look at the total picture.

 

 

I'm thinking infantry.  It looks like you get to do some really cool stuff.  As far as job training goes I already have a 4 year degree and work as a professional which I'm content with.  I've browsed several MOS's and I mean no disrespect but nothing has the appeal like infantry, aviation, or possibly armor.  What do you guys think about those?


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Posted 02 November 2018 - 20:38

What region are you located in?

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Posted 02 November 2018 - 20:41

What region are you located in?

 

I live in upstate NY, but I would like to move out of NY state.  



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Posted 02 November 2018 - 21:49

 

 

I'm thinking infantry.  It looks like you get to do some really cool stuff.  As far as job training goes I already have a 4 year degree and work as a professional which I'm content with.  I've browsed several MOS's and I mean no disrespect but nothing has the appeal like infantry, aviation, or possibly armor.  What do you guys think about those?

 

No disrespect taken, I missed that you already have a degree. I have absolutely nothing against the Infantry, and you're right, the MOS's you mentioned can have "cool stuff" training. You shouldn't have trouble finding a Guard unit with openings in Infantry and Armor, Aviation shouldn't be an big issue since you're willing to relocate. With a 4 year degree you'll be able to enlist as an E-4.



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Posted 02 November 2018 - 22:14

You brave soul.

May you fight with righteous intension. And for international co-operation. And not booty. Allah akbar.



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Posted 02 November 2018 - 23:06

 
 

I'm thinking infantry.  It looks like you get to do some really cool stuff.  As far as job training goes I already have a 4 year degree and work as a professional which I'm content with.  I've browsed several MOS's and I mean no disrespect but nothing has the appeal like infantry, aviation, or possibly armor.  What do you guys think about those?


As an infantryman, if youre trying to go Warrant one day in the future its a good packet builder but can make it tough to find the CW3-5 recommender. Id suggest going aviation if you want to be a pilot one day
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Posted 03 November 2018 - 00:12

You brave soul.

May you fight with righteous intension. And for international co-operation. Allah akbar.


What the f*ck is this? Ban this troll @admin
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