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#61 clarity

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Posted 08 September 2007 - 08:53

Clarity,

I went to a very small school to start and some of those students were screwed out of more than you when the school took the big flop, some up to $20,000. They even screwed the helicopter leasing companies, yes plural, don't you think those guys reviewed the situation? They also owe the airport, I saw them screw CFI's and business partners. Some things in life require risk, scratch that, EVERYTHING in life but some morre than others. The thing about con-men is they seem so damn trustworthy...otherwise would they really be a con-man if nobody ever trusted them in the first place? It can happen to anyone. Sometimes people just have to trust people...shame on the ones that take advantage of that. I trusted and got taken advantage of, then I persued it and didn't stop untill I was even.

People who drilled it in to Clarity that he made a mistake.. everyone makes mistakes. If your mistakes or secrets were exposed you wouldn't be so cocky.

Clarity, for making physical threats, grow up man. I was on your side untill you did that crap.



Dear Sir,

I have never, nor will ever be afraid to stick up for myslef and/or others that are being harassed by another individual. (Something my father taught me.) And I do think if you re-read this entire thing, from start to finish, my reaction becomes easily justifiable. I came on here to try to help others and was unexpectadly blasted. but, done deal.... it is what it is.

my apologies if my attitude offended anyone.

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Posted 08 September 2007 - 10:12

Dear Sir,

I have never, nor will ever be afraid to stick up for myslef and/or others that are being harassed by another individual. (Something my father taught me.) And I do think if you re-read this entire thing, from start to finish, my reaction becomes easily justifiable. I came on here to try to help others and was unexpectadly blasted. but, done deal.... it is what it is.

my apologies if my attitude offended anyone.


I got my feelings hurt :)
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#63 doanut99

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Posted 15 September 2007 - 18:20

your immediate attack on someone who is a new-comer to this industry does not look good... and if you maintain your current level of professionalism it will not help you get into the stable and better paying jobs in this industry... in fact it is detrimental to the industry on the whole.



You, Sir, are in no position to criticize another person's professionalism. Throughout this entire thread you have demonstrated your immaturity; i.e physical threats/animosity. You have every right to "stick up" for yourself, but I would advise you to do that by making good arguments, not acting like a high school student.

I am sympathetic to your situation, but the fact is you knew what you were getting into, and did it anyway, stop blaming people for pointing out your mistake.

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Edited by doanut99, 15 September 2007 - 18:23.


#64 clarity

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Posted 19 September 2007 - 22:12

your immediate attack on someone who is a new-comer to this industry does not look good... and if you maintain your current level of professionalism it will not help you get into the stable and better paying jobs in this industry... in fact it is detrimental to the industry on the whole.



doanut99,,,, yeah buddy, you might wanna check this forum again... the above is not what i personally said,, i quoted another member... soo your right, i am in no position to "criticize another person's professionalism" hence why i didn't.... u might wanna be sure of things before you go running of a reply based upon things that someone did not even say themselves..... just a thought.

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Posted 19 September 2007 - 22:13

your immediate attack on someone who is a new-comer to this industry does not look good... and if you maintain your current level of professionalism it will not help you get into the stable and better paying jobs in this industry... in fact it is detrimental to the industry on the whole.
doanut99,,,, yeah buddy, you might wanna check this forum again... the above is not what i personally said,, i quoted another member... soo your right, i am in no position to "criticize another person's professionalism" hence why i didn't.... u might wanna be sure of things before you go running of a reply based upon things that someone did not even say themselves..... just a thought.



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Posted 24 September 2007 - 15:21

Clarity
That's to bad to hear about your loss, I don't know anybody who does the research on a Company & Signs up with the intention of not going through with their contract. I am sure your intentions were true to complete the schooling & get a job flying.

I'll be Honest...SSH has a great presentation & advertising side to them. I live in Southern California and it's hard to ignor their Commercials on the radio about learning to Fly and how they hire you right after you Graduate. I have been to their Presentation, and you get a warm fuzzy feeling about how many locations they have, how big they are, all the contracts they have and the security of the Big Corporate Umbrella.

I think the main Purpose of this Topic was to inform us about the Fees that arise & about the Contract that everybody signs when going with SSH.

I would like to hear more about personal experiences with SSH if anybody would care to share them. Especially if they are about lack of schooling or their instructors.





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#67 Five0

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Posted 24 September 2007 - 18:30

Clarity at least sounds like he's got a pair. You two sound like some recip pole smokers. I doubt you take him up on his offer.



Hey dumbazz......if you're in training then you're flying recips. Or do you just use the term without actually knowing what it means?

...and speaking of pole smokers, how is your mother?

Take another drag on your bong and go back to sleep.....it's not noon time yet.

#68 Hovergirl

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Posted 24 September 2007 - 20:15

Will someone please close this thread?
Check rides should be like skirts -- short enough to be interesting, but long enough to cover everything...

#69 Helo-Pilot

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Posted 24 September 2007 - 20:28

Agreed. This needs to be shut down and moved to JH.

#70 slick1537

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Posted 24 September 2007 - 20:35

Agreed. This needs to be shut down and moved to JH.


lmao

#71 hotrodturbo7

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Posted 25 September 2007 - 08:05

I should tell some "Why did your mom cross the road" jokes.
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 10:07

This is ridiculous.

Sum up:

"I got ripped off"
"Idiot, haha"
"Why are you a jerk"
"Why are you dumb"
"Jerk"
"Idiot"
"Jerk"
"Idiot"
"Jerk"
"Idiot, thats it, I'm done with this thread... seriously, I'm never checking it again... not even joking"
"Jerk"
"Idiot"
"Jerk"
"Idiot"
"Jerk"
"Idiot"
"Im gonna bust your mouth in"
"Thats rude, idiot"
"Come to florida"
"Jerk"
"Idiot"
"Jerk"
"Idiot"
"Jerk"
"Idiot"
"Dude you can't threaten people like that"
"My Dad told me to stick up for myself"

"Vanilla ice... HAHAHAHAHAHA, I called him vanilla Ice!!!


Seriously, this is funny, not that clarity lost money, but the whole deal. Clay didn't try to offend anybody.... you guys really need a vacation. Florida's nice this time of year.

BTW Clarity, as a site where employers might figure out who you are, put on a shirt. :lol: ;)

Edited by Sparker, 25 September 2007 - 11:09.


#73 Helo-Pilot

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Posted 25 September 2007 - 22:13

This is ridiculous.

Sum up:
Seriously, this is funny, not that clarity lost money, but the whole deal. Clay didn't try to offend anybody.... you guys really need a vacation. Florida's nice this time of year.

BTW Clarity, as a site where employers might figure out who you are, put on a shirt. :lol: ;)


Not only that, but an employeer will look and see that you tend to stir the pot, and/or are hot headed. No one wants to hire someone who is going to come in and start making threats the first time they get offended. I have noticed that in this industry, you really need some thick skin.

If they have your money, then grow up, go to classes and get the training you paid for. You made the decision, now commit to it.

#74 clay

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Posted 25 September 2007 - 23:01

dont lock it!!! it is humerous and we should all laugh... it makes the world a better place
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#75 zemogman

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 09:49

.... you guys really need a vacation. Florida's nice this time of year.


Florida's got enough to deal with... :P
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#76 Five0

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 17:55

Florida's got enough to deal with... :P



Okay, I'm outta here.......I got crooks to bust.

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 12:27

First off, I must say to the original poster of this topic, you are an idiot. Don't go bashing a company that you signed up for just because you didn't read the contract. When you sign up, Silver State is not only paying for supplies like books that will be given to you right away up front, but they are taking your word that you will fill a spot in a ground class, and fill a spot for a CFI. So not only are the ground instructor and CFI being paid to teach you, but it takes a hundred other people behind them, including HR department, accounting, Insurance, managers, maintenance setting everything up for you, all because you decided you wanted to make a career out of flying helicopters. Yes it is very expensive. So are ALL OTHER FLIGHT SCHOOLS! And lets put it this way, there is no career in this country for a private helicopter pilot under a couple hundred hours. So unless you plan to do this for pleasure, your going to need your commercial/CFI. Silver States passing rate isn't perfect, but it is on par with the Aviation world. If you could really measure an individual passing rate for all aviation schools in the U.S., you can count on that it is in the 10-20%. That is just the way it is. But I can tell you something that would increase that figure. Idiots who don't sign up for something they do not intend to finish. People not motivated to work hard and make sacrifices in order to fly the necessary 2-3 times per week, and spend the hours studying at home. If you can't live up to that, then none of this business is for you. Stay out of it. Just because you couldn't hack the training, and it was too hard and much for you to understand, don't go whining about it looking for pity. SSH is the best paying job for new CFIs. Your lucky to make 10-15 dollars per flight hour anywhere else, when SSH pays flight, ground, and pre and post instruction. If you show motivation to be a CFI, and willing to work hard, I can assure you there is a CFI, and many others behind him, at your location willing to work hard for you.



You have benn drinking way too much SSH Kool-aid!

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 12:56

As a response to an earlier post where someone asked how many people that start actually finish the course. My class started with 27 people and 11 of us will graduate.

So heres my 2 cents on SSH being that im a student and have first hand knowledge of what is going on. When I started I tried to check out multiple schools yet no one would get back to me. The only two schools in the area that I knew of were SSH and Universal. Even now i'd take Silver state over universal. For the first year I would see posts here and on other web sites about silver state and I couldn't understand what was going on cause it wasn't happening at my location. We had plenty of helicopters. The CFI's were great and the ground training was great. That my friends has all changed. It is a monster that is out of control. Everytime I see someone in the lobby wanting to sign up I want to tell them to go somewhere else. Helicopters are scarce. The ground school has changed to watching a recorded thing on the computer and it is hard to get one on one ground scheduled in. These are not faults of the cfi's who I still see as great instructors (i also recognise that I don't have very many hours and that my opinion on great instructor might not be the same as someone with thousands of hours). All in all I feel that my training has been great. That said. I plan on distancing myself from Silver State as soon as possible. I hope that this industry isn't as close minded that they would discriminate someone for what school they went through instead comparing their skills with someone else. If it is, then its not much better off then silver state.

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Posted 07 December 2007 - 16:18

All the personal attacks and threats of physical violence were out of line. But the whole Vanilla Ice thing, now that was just funny. Classic. Clarity, you have to have a better photo for a helicopter forum. Save that one for your next album cover.

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Posted 07 December 2007 - 17:47

All the personal attacks and threats of physical violence were out of line. But the whole Vanilla Ice thing, now that was just funny. Classic. Clarity, you have to have a better photo for a helicopter forum. Save that one for your next album cover.

I second that one. Clarity it is a small community, and potential employers are going to see this. It would be wise to keep that in mind.
Stay safe out there.




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