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  1. GHawk In the back of my mind, I was hoping the AF would be able in taking former Flight Warrants (FW) with the new 10yr ADSO if they wish to Jump over. Obviously, that's not the case unless enlisting for WOFT at the age of 20 or less. For those that qualify and are chosen, they must serve at least 23 years before retirement and have their 4yr degree. Looks like the 10yr ADSO will work wonders for the Army since most (FW) are prior enlisted. 1) Less bonus money offered for prior enlisted FW. 2) Retention should increase for the prior enlisted FW regarding retirement. 3) The other services Commissioning pilot training programs are OFF the table including the USCG. Unless enlisted before 20 years old. No more former FW Thunderbird pilots PS: In the history of the AF, they never recognized Army fixed wing training. And the AF does have C-12s.
  2. I never considered myself as a refugee but I will wear that badge proudly. I assume you had over 10 years in the Army service before switching. That being the case, that will allow future Amy aviators with the new Army 10yr ADSO in crossing over to the Air Force as well. Was that an issue in being selected by the AF in having more than 10 years of Army service? AF SUPT is a little over 11 years including training. The two takes you over 20 years for retirement. When it comes to military aviation, I consider Army aviation as the low hanging fruit. In reaching higher, the reward is sweeter. But Army aviation is better than sitting behind a desk and possibly dying of boredom.
  3. I have a few questions for you but first, congratulation in crossing over to the Air Force side. What took you so long? Why Army aviation in the first place? Did you initially feel Army aviation was a better fit in your career goals? Are you dual rated in the Army. Which aircraft(s)? Which AF aircraft will you be flying? My guess is either the C-130, or KC-135. Will the AF 10yr ADSO take you over 20yr when including your Army time for retirement purposes. There was a former Army Reserve UH-60 flight Warrant that flew as the Thunderbird slot pilot a few years ago.
  4. The Marines and Navy also have Reserve units as well. But you must be a rated pilot when applying. National Guard units in the Navy or Marines do NOT exist. Whereas in the USAF Reserves and National Guard, you can compete for a pilot training slot before being obligated in serving. Army Reserves and National Guard are somewhat different. Some units want you to serve first before being selected.
  5. SBuzzkill It so Interesting that the Army feels they have the only guaranteed street to seat program. The Air Force, Navy and the Marines has had the S2S program forever. All perspective pilot applicants know they have been selected for pilot training before enlisting for the OTS/OCS requirement. Not obligated if not selected. Of course you MUST have a 4yr degree. No NON college grads in their pilot seats. By attending the military academies or ROTC you are not guaranteed a pilot slot, you must compete. If not selected, you must serve your military commitment upon graduation. The Army is the ONLY service that will not guarantee a pilot slot for potential Commission Officers prior to OCS or through ROTC/ USMA. They must compete. Very rare in OCS, basically a crap shoot, OCS fills out the short fills. But, the Army can put you in the pilot seat with only a HS/GED diploma since 1951 in being a Warrant Officer as we all know. I view Army aviation as the low hanging fruit. Don't be tempted. Reach higher, sweeter the reward. A little military trivia. The USAF is the only service where they no longer have the Warrant Officer rank structure or anyone serving as Warrant Officers since 1992.
  6. Being in the Army Guard, once completing your degree, you may have the option in switching to the USAF Air National Guard or Reserves in flying for them. It's done quite often. Is there an F-22A in Hawaii in your future in the Air National Guard?
  7. Time to throw your hat in the ring there 339. You have everything to gain and nothing to loose. Having your degree, you can check out the other services in a pilot contract too.
  8. They usually do it at the beginning of the new fiscal year. My prayers go out to all you Warrant Officers aviators.
  9. GM1 Keep your fingers crossed. Can you win twice? You won the 6 year ADSO.
  10. For those who have an interest, view You Tube video clip titled Army Talent Management Task Force - Warrant Officer Professional Development Dec 2,2020. Start at 11:25 in the clip. Last about 2 minutes. No start date given as of TODAY. Potential loss of $7k in salary when implemented in making CW2 eventually but you're still being paid to fly. You're helping in reducing the National debt.
  11. For those who have an interest, view this You Tube video clip, titled Army Talent Management Task Force- Warrant Officer Professional Development Dec 2, 2020. Start at the 11:25 mark for two minutes or so.
  12. GM1 No news regarding the adjustment of the date of rank for WOs. The raadjustment of the DOR includes the Tech Warrants as well .All the legal concerns have bern successfully answered by the Army. Up to the Army when to implement. Are you under the new 10 year ADSO? What month were you selected for WOFT?
  13. Thanks for the possible update for the Commissioned Officer date of rank adjustment. What's good for the goose, is good for the gander.
  14. The new aviation 10 year ADSO was passed in the best interest of the Army period. Tremendous cost savings over the years in retainability and cost savings in less bonuses offered. The Army will call this a Win Win proposition. Future Warrant Officer aviators may not see it that way. It will not have an overall affect in volunteers for the WOFT program. There are more than enough qualified career Enlisted soldiers waiting in the wings so to speak in wanting to leave their undesirable MOS career field. Not requiring a 4 year degree is the Army's solution in meeting their numbers. Every MOS is in play as well as every qualified prior enlisted from any military service. The hardest part is being selected for WOFT. The washout rate in flight school hovers around 5% since all graduates are COPILOTS. The gaining organizations will determine if and when the recent graduate will be awarded pilot in command status. The possibility of being a Warrant Officer, an aviator, more money for the family and a LITTLE less Army BS is very alluring to a Career Enlisted Soldier. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if more than a few WO aviators did it for the money and not for the love of flying. The Army has 1 more trick up their sleeve for WO aviators. In the near future, the Army will readjust the date of rank for WO flight graduates to the day they finish flight school. It will take approx 1.5 years longer in making CWO ranks. WO flight students will loose approximately $7k in income while waiting to pin on CW2. Another $3 K-$4K when making CW3 before eligible in separating. More cost savings for the Army. The readjustment of date of rank wasn't suggested for the Commissioned Officer grades or has it?
  15. Just read that yesterday. They will be getting a replacement for the T-45 in 5-6 years. Wonder if they select the AF T-7A? I doubt it but it could save money.
  16. The military will never go on record but the vision requirements cuts down on thousands of applications. Just like height and weight.
  17. Since you are only trained in thinking as a copilot, you need not be too competent in flight school. Now, I can see why the pass rate is so high. You have no responsible as a flight student. It's always in the instructors hands.
  18. That being the case with civilian instructors, you earn your fixed wing rating and military wings without any military flight instructors. How interesting.
  19. Upon selecting C-12, do you have ANY military instructor pilots throughout the IERW & IEFW course in the pilot seat with you? And from what I understand, it's official now, no solo time whatsoever in IERW/IEFW. Does that mean you always fly with an instructor? Or can you fly with a stick buddy?
  20. Pilot retention will always be an issue in all the services especially during an airline pilot hiring boom. Until recently, the airlines were even making it possible for rotary wing pilots with additional training.
  21. One quick question, did you know about the WOFT program before enlisting?
  22. Will it matter to you? If not enjoy flight school, it's not often you get paid to learn how to fly multi million dollar aircraft. If it does, decline the invite, the Army has alternates waiting in the wings so to speak in replacing you. The recent change takes Army flight school to the shortest to the longest of all the services. Naval flight training including Marines & Coast Guard, is 8 yrs upon winging. Air Force is 10 years on completion. As of now, no one has the definitive answer for those selected between 4 June 20 to 30 Sept 20. Is it based on your selection date, when you sign your contract, enter BCT, AvBOLC, WOFT or beginning or end of IERW/IEFW? I'm sure the Army will let you know in due time. Let us know when you have the official ruling.
  23. No if she/he has more than 3 years left on the original ADSO.
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