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  1. Why are you deciding on the Guard route vs active duty? I assume your Navy SNA contract was for active duty. Which Navy aircraft was your preference? By the way, what is the commitment for SNA and SNFO since the Army's is a 10 yr ADSO after winging as of 1 Oct 20?
  2. I changed the 1st sentence. Army aviators with the 6 year ADSO contract, may be eligible for the ACTIVE DUTY transfer if meeting the requirements. There should no problem with the Reserves or National Guard. They maintain Rigid Flexibility at all times.
  3. The Career Enlisted Soldiers will fill the void in WOFT recruiting. There are career active duty soldiers who will remain until retirement regardless of rank, Enlisted, Warrant or Commissioned. And that is the Army's targeted market for the WOFT program. Not everyone wants out as soon as possible from active duty.
  4. Pjakaesc270 One word of advice with the new 10 year ADSO which will take you to 11+ years if serving on ACTIVE duty. Before the recent change in ADSO, in the past more than a few Warrant Officer aviators elected to transfer to another military service in finishing their professional flying career on ACTIVE duty once meeting the requirements. A few flew for the Thunderbirds and at least one risen to the rank of a General Officer. I wouldn't be surprised if there were even an astronaut or two. Warrant Officer Power unstoppable when unleashed. With the increase in the ADSO, this option may not be available to you. The gaining service would want more than 8-9 years of ACTIVE duty service before you're eligible for retirement. Shouldn't be an issue if starting out in the Army Reserves or Army National Guard WOFT program. Of course, there can be a policy change in the future in your favor regarding Active duty. Why am I mentioning this? This may be the only service you can retire on ACTIVE duty. Not an issue, if unconcerned. Army aviation in the pilot seat is your only option being a HS grad as you well know. By having a college degree, you have a better selection in being a military pilot. Choose wisely. You get what you pay for in life. Less college, less options.
  5. The increase in ADSO won't have an effect on the Warrant Officer aviation pipeline. More than enough Career Enlisted Soldiers will fill any void left by civilian reduced recruitment. No other service offers HS to flight school. That's the Army's saving grace. Regarding the future Army Commissioned Lts in wishing to branch aviation, that will be an issue next year. The USMA/ROTC graduating cadets will make the decision on the 12 year commitment in 2021. More than likely the Lts selected will be lower on the Order of Merit List.
  6. For those ACTIVE DUTY aviation Warrant Officers with a 6 year ADSO, you still may have this option available if meeting the requirements. Age primarily and a 4yr degree. For those who may have an interest in continuing on ACTIVE DUTY in another service, it's possible in the pilot seat. The new 10 year ADSO will take this option off the table for ACTIVE DUTY transfers. You would have less than 9 years before being retirement eligible. Not a good investment since AF SUPT ADSO is 10 years after winging. There have been literally hundreds of Army aviators over the years that made the transition to Air Force/Navy/Marine/Coast Guard flight training programs and having successful careers while on ACTIVE DUTY. A few years ago, the AF Thunderbird slot (#4) pilot was a former Army Reserve CW2 UH-60 aviator who made the transfer to AF ACTIVE DUTY and SUPT. I'm certain 1 or 2 former Army CWO aviators retired as AF General Officers while serving solely on ACTIVE DUTY. I wouldn't even be surprised if there were 1 or 2 astronauts. Warrant Officer Power when totally unleashed. What's my point you may ask? The 6 yr ADSO may possibly allow you in finishing your military aviation career in another branch of service on ACTIVE DUTY. Good luck and choose wisely.
  7. As the Army is tinkering around the edges in finding solutions to Aviation retention issues, they've come up with 2 and possibly a 3rd solution in their eyes in the last few years. 1) Max 8 yr TIS for WOFT (waiverable if needed) 2) ADSO 10 yrs 1 Oct 20 3) Adjusting WO1 Date of Rank to Graduation. (Possible in the near future) QOL & pay incentive issues will never be addressed in a meaningful way. This is the Army solution for the foreseeable future.
  8. This is a well written article dated 25 Jun 20, regarding the increase in the commitment and overall issues in the Army's pilot force. Time to google: the Army needs a better solution for its pilots shortage Any opinions on the article from you new and old heads? I have two. 1) The General must be brain dead if he thinks the airlines are not having an affect on retention . 2) I disagreed on having a negative affect on Career Enlisted Soldiers in applying for WOFT. The Army can fill their full WOFT yearly allotment with CAREER Enlisted Soldiers without any help from the private sector if they wish to. In the article, they talk of a 330 pilot shortfall. You can't tell me, you can not find 330 QUALIFIED E-3 to E-6 WOFT applicants in the Army who are fed up with their MOS. They need only the HS/GED degree and a few other requirements in applying. Many of the Career Enlisted won't have a love for flying,. It's the pay, Officer title and a different type of BS. Different ranks, different BS, hopefully less.
  9. Nil5038 & XP Once a Sailor, always a Sailor. You are ALWAYS thinking out side the box. Future CW5 material here, folks.
  10. Siminole What's interesting about Army aviation, they always had retention issues even when the major airlines never recognize their skill set.
  11. GM1 The loss of income will be approx $8k over a 15-18 month period for active duty W1s What will the RLOs think up next for the WOs. I forgot, 10 yr commitment upon graduating. Don't quit in IEFT, that will also cost you 10 years service. i
  12. Kona4breakfast I seriously doubt the ACTIVE DUTY AF would accept an Army UH-60 pilot with less than 9 yrs before reaching retirement, even if they made the age requirement cutoff. Poor investment. No rate of return to speak of. Every AF SUPT graduate must do at least 10 years. That's more than 8 plus. Of course you can request a waiver but don't count on it. AF Reserves/ NG won't be a problem with the Degree. Max age for Naval flight training is 32 as of 30 Apr 19. But the #1 question is the retainability factor as the Army Aviator approaches retirement at 20 years. For those who go active duty WOFT, forget flying on ACTIVE DUTY in any other service, if that concerns you. I can't stress that enough. Choose wisely. Sometimes in life, you don't want to select the easier path, unless it's the only route. There are several reasons in not requiring any college at all for the WOFT program. Ask SBuzzkill PS: in the near future, the AF will have 3 helo models and 1 tilt rotor. TH-1H/UH-1N MH-139 HH-60G/W CV-22B .
  13. Are you asking someone to predict the future? Your guess is good as anyone else's. Do you know of anyone that predicted the worldwide Virus in 2019? But I can guarantee one thing. You'll have between 11-12 year commitment in serving.
  14. With the new IEFT commitment as of 1 Oct 20, this will have a profound affect on ACTIVE DUTY Army aviators in the future possibly. Due to the increase of 4yrs, Army aviators will not have the option of transferring to another service on active duty for flight training and career progression. The other services, regarding active duty, will demand more than 8-9 years before being eligible for the 20 yr retirement. It's not uncommon for Army Reserve/NG pilots in transferring to the AF Air Guard/Reserves before completing their Army obligation for AF SUPT. A few years ago, a former Army Reserve UH-60 CW2 pilot flew as the AF Thunderbird slot pilot (#4). Obviously he completed AF OTS, SUPT and had more than a few years flying an F-16 as an active duty Officer. In the Navy/Marines Reserves, there are no initial training slots authorized. Must be a rated aviator from their flight school or the Air Force. The point I'm making is this. If you are applying for active duty WOFT under the new obligation, the option of flying for another service on active duty is NOW off the table. Not an issue if you have no concern. Pick wisely. Especially if you have your 4 year degree. Good luck in reaching ones future goals.
  15. Being 17, you may want to take this under advisement. The Army WOFT program is ONE of THE BEST enlistment options of ALL the services. Requiring only a HS diploma in being a pilot and Officer. But there is an underlining issue which takes the bloom off the rose with the new commitment of 11.5-12 years on ACTIVE DUTY. The new commitment will make you INELIGIBLE in crossing over to another service flight program UNLESS you initially started as an Army Reserve or Army Guard pilot. The other active duty services would require more than 8 or 9 year commitment before being retirement eligible at 20 years. Prior to the increase in time, it was possible to fly in another service being a former Army aviator upon completion of your obligation without waivers. A few years ago, a former Army Reserve Chief Warrant Officer UH-60 pilot flew the slot position (#4) in the THUNDERBIRDS. Obviously after completing AF OTS, SUPT and more than a few years flying the F-16 as an active duty officer. So, my recommendation is quite simply, complete college and select 1 of the other services in being a pilot. Each profession has a pecking order. WOFT should be your last option. You'll find very few Army pilots would disagree if they have options in flying in another service. Don't be concern on the WOFT stats. The Army been training pilots for OVER a HALF CENTURY without 1 minute of flight experience nor a college degree. Obviously flight experience and a degree is an added plus. Some wise and old CW5 pilot told me long ago, can't be accepted if you don't apply. Do remember, if you decide on the WOFT program, it's a 1000 times better than sitting behind a desk ALL day and possibly dying of BOREDOM. My 2 cents and sticking with it.
  16. Cantankerously I assume in your 60/40 split, you had no idea on the number of street2seat applicants who had previous military service. Is that a correct statement?
  17. Pjakesc270 Regarding Street2Seat, you must also take this into consideration. How many prior service civilians are applying in comparison to those who never served. I bet it's not a 50/50 split. Prior service WOFT applicants more than likely have an advantage in selection. You shouldn't have any difficulty in being selected with your stats unless your ACFT/AFPT really really sucks. Flight school averages at least a 95% graduation rate. Everyone comes out as a COPILOT. Marginal students can be passed on. Enjoy the 11.5-12 year commitment. Have you thought of flying for another service?
  18. nil 5038 The Army can surprise anyone. Take the 10 year commitment for example. 4 more years.
  19. Nil5038 That is so cool. You had me guessing. When I was in the USAF, I had a MSgt who worked for me. He served in the Navy/Marines/Army and Air Force in that order all on active duty. Of course I didn't believe him and bet him $50. Next day, he brought in 3 uniforms and 3 former active duty DD214s at work. He set me up good. I bet he makes a good living at this, even to the present day. What was your career field in the Navy after OCS?
  20. Nil5038 Are you an RLO reverting to W1 for WOFT? If so which branch? If not, I do not understand why you're skipping BCT and WOCS.
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