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  1. ^^ I second this. As a prior AF guy I can tell you that your quality of life will be way better. If you're dead set on rotary wing, I hear the coast guard has the second best chance of flying helos, second to the Army. However, any branch besides the Army gives you the benefit of CO AND the benefit of being a dedicated pilot. No other service uses WOs to fly their aircraft from what I understand. There's a reason the Army is hemorrhaging pilots from both the CO and WO sides. Quality of life, little flight time, additional duties, time away from family, undesirable duty stations, and so much more will very quickly outweigh how cool it is to fly helicopters, especially with a family. If I was in your shoes and knew what I know now, I'd think of the long term and go AF or Coast Guard. The one major downside to this is you risk not getting aviation out of OCS. Additionally, even if you get aviation, there is a chance you could end up as a navigator or worse, flying drones. Your last option, if you want to go the CO route and want to be for sure put in aviation, is to talk to a Guard or Reserve recruiter from any branch. Typically the NG and Reserves have more ability to hire a person for a specific job, including pilots. Good luck.
  2. I have heard rumors of people offering money to other students above them on OML to NOT select a specific aircraft, so that they can have it. It would be hard to do though since OML isn't available to the students until selection day so you are never really sure how many people are above you.
  3. Yeah, on every AF installation I've been on they do. I went to Ft. Dix TDY once, ate on the Army side of post, and left my tray behind when I walked away. Some Staff Sergeant started yelling at me saying, "They don't teach you to clean up after yourself in the Air Force?" and I said, "You don't have people for that?" Turns out they don't.
  4. I miss being an E-4 in the Air National Guard lol. The pay is better as a warrant, and flying is fun most of the time, but the Army is is really good at making everything suck even when it doesn't have to. There are little things that I didn't expect when I made the jump. For example, in the Air Guard I had never heard of someone sharing a hotel room when TDY. When I got to flight school and thrown into honors detachment, I was surprised to find out that to save money, the Army will put two people in each hotel room. Don't expect the Embassy Suites like you're probably used too either, you and your battle buddy get to share a $60 room at the motel 6. That's Army Officer life. It's a petty example, and obviously that wouldn't be a deal breaker for being a pilot, but expect life to be a lot more frustrating. The living conditions are generally worse, the leadership is overall less competent, there is a higher workload with less personnel, and the overall quality of everything in the Army is just lower. But, you get to fly helicopters! and after your ADSO, if the Army isn't your thing you can always jump back to the AF as a commissioned guy and fly for them. Especially if you have some contacts already in your current job. Bottom line, I love flying helicopters. It's a great feeling when you are actually doing real world missions, helping the ground force, and watching porta potties blow away in your rotor wash as you come in to land. It's awesome. Unfortunately, that's only about 10% or less of what you'll be doing. The rest of the time you will be doing a job (or several more realistically) that is totally unrelated to aviation and that you have received literally zero training on how to accomplish. That would be my biggest complaint. The rest I pretty much expected when I joined the Army. Oh, and no one takes your trays for you when you're done eating at the DFAC. I didn't know that my first time on an Army post lol.
  5. I personally never had the desire to fly the Attack mission, and fixed wing just never appealed to me in the way rotary wing did. That pretty much narrowed my choices down to 60s or 47s. They both do similar missions, so why would one want 47s over 60s? To each their own really, but here was my thought process when I went to selection. Take it for what it's worth. If I would have selected 60s I could have been sent to a MEDEVAC company, Air Assault company, VIP movement, General Support, etc... The main point being that I would primarily fly one specific mission while in that unit. I head stories of people who started in MEDEVAC, a few years later PCSd into an Assault battalion only to have essentially zero air assault planning experience. Picking 60s meant that big Army would still be picking my mission for me when my orders came down, at least for my first duty station. In 47 land, regardless of where you get stationed, you routinely fly pretty much every mission that 60s fly except dedicated MEDEVAC and VIP movement (although we still do CASEVAC and move VIPs in some cases). Not only does choosing 47s mean that you are much more likely to be more well rounded in the missions you are trained in, you will also be flying a more capable aircraft. Now I'm not saying that 60s aren't capable aircraft, but what I am saying is that a CH-47 can fly higher, faster, and longer than a 60 in most circumstances. We can carry more troops, more cargo, and more fuel. This capability makes the 47 a highly in demand aircraft to the ground force commanders. All this coupled with the fact that there are very few 47s compared to 60s lead me to believe that I would be doing more missions and getting more flight time as a Chinook pilot than as a Hawk pilot. I'm not sure how true the flight time portion is since I've never been a 60 pilot, but I certainly don't regret my decision. Chinooks are insanely powerful helicopters, and as a bonus, I have never beed asked a single question about LTE. TL;DR: If size didn't matter, we'd all be flying Blackhawks.
  6. I went through WOCS with a guy who turned 19 right before graduation. He was certainly not bottom of his class, really smart guy. He was pretty quiet and I would have never guessed he was as young as he was. If you're going in young, just try to listen twice as much as you speak and do what you think is best. Observe the mistakes and accomplishments of others and learn from them. When I went through I was on the younger side as well at 22. Ironically the people that created the biggest headaches in my class were a select few older and inflexible prior NCOs who wanted to be in charge of everything. In summary, age has nothing to do with success, stick to your morals, and remember the old saying "It's better to remain quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt." Best of luck.
  7. Ah I see. I misunderstood. I thought you were trying to get into the AD Army street to seat from the Air Guard. The Utah Army Guard also refused to take me street to seat when I talked to a recruiter. I was also told to enlist first into a flight MOS and apply from within. Because of that, I decided to go Active Duty instead to get a guaranteed flight slot.
  8. I'm no expert in essays or formatting, but overall I thought it was well written. It can be difficult to write about yourself in a way that puts you on a pedestal, but you highlighted your strengths well without sounding pompous. One line that I would change if it was my essay is this: Warrant Officers are in a unique leadership role as middle ground between officer and soldier. I would say that warrants are a middle ground between commissioned officers and enlisted in their duties, sure. However, every officer, warrant, and enlisted person in the Army is a soldier. Nobody should be a middle ground, or else they would be a liability on the battlefield to the real soldiers. I've heard many people say "Soldier first, officer second, pilot third". Anyway, I would change the word soldier to enlisted, or make some other similar change. Overall great essay though, that verbiage just caught my eye.
  9. I was AF ANG as well, went street to seat in 2014 in Utah. Although I had to go to BCT, my initial enlistment paperwork from my recruiter clearly stated that my MOS was 09W. If I remember correctly I also had WOCS dates at the same time I received BCT dates. I've never heard that different states did it differently. I thought that if you were applying for AD Army that is was the same in all 50 states. I could be wrong, maybe I just was lucky enough to be in a good state for street to seat, but I've never heard of it being different between states for AD. PM me if there's anything you think I may be able to help with, I'll do what I can for you. Good luck.
  10. I have no idea how competitive it is, but I've heard they stay pretty full. I looked into it when I first got to Rucker since my wife wasn't coming down for a few more months, but it was an ass pain and I wanted to start getting settled into a house so I didn't really pursue it.
  11. http://rucker.corviasmilitaryliving.com/contact-us Contact the Ft Rucker housing leasing office and they should have all the answers for you for geographic bachelor housing. If I remember correctly, since there are limited slots available you will need a memo explaining why you need geographic bachelor housing over the next guy. I also think you have to "re apply" every 60 or 90 days. Anyway, contact the Corvias leasing office and they should be able to help you out.
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