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http://abcnews.go.com/US/helicopter-crashes-east-river-york-city/story?id=53673315 Could a harness possibly add risk if the aircraft is in a ditching situation or a fire? I think we would need to analyze that carefully. In an apparent autorotation and ditching it appears the pilot escaped safely unfortunately everyone else is left stuck inside the capsized aircraft, rescuers did not arrive in time. These open door experience flights are becoming very popular, obviously if people are flying with the doors open they need to be harnessed, the only downsize to a harness is they are can tough to remove. They were not using regular seatbelts, Flynyon uses skydiving type harnesses that are very difficult to remove, and when you are panicking removing a complex harness is much more difficult. Now one could argue even if they were not harnessed they still would have had difficulty escaping, since the aircraft capsized, but their chance would probably have been higher, especially considering the doors are open allowing easy access out. Also, Offshore workers are trained in HUET (Helicopter underwater emergency training), tourists are not. For the sake of the victims I would like to keep this discussion about safety and not let this descend into a free for all bashing opportunity, which is unproductive and disrespectful. Here's a video showing HUET training, notice the seat belts are quite easy to remove, rescuers at the NY accident said that they had to cut the harnesses.
Dear colleagues, I write this post to ask you your opinion about a couple of questions related with an helicopter crash happened in 1989, in the sea, a few miles of the coastline of Roquetas de Mar town, province of Almeria (Spain). I am analyzing this misterious crash in my spare time. Many thanks in advance for your opinions. ************** HISTORY: ************** On December 15th, 1989, 7:00pm, a helicopter of the Spanish Customs Surveillance, model Messerschmitt-Bölkow-Blohm BO-105 CB, with two helicopter pilots, departed from the airport of Almeria (Spain) with destination to the area of Melilla (Spain). On December 16th, 00:40am, the members of the control tower of the airport inform the helicopter is missing (the autonomy of this helicopter was 4 hours) On December 16th, 07:00am (about 12 hours after the crash) a fishing boat finds two miles far from the coastline of Cerrillos Beach (Roquetas de Mar, Almería, Spain) the body of one of the helicopter pilots floating with the cross arms. The distance from the airport is about 10 miles, which is why it is supposed the accident happened about 20 minutes after the departure. From the analysis of the body (autopsy) the investigators concluded that the helicopter did not explode in the air. Two main hypothesis were managed. The first one was that a distraction of the pilot could have caused the crash, while the second one was a possible mechanical failure, perhaps a failure in the altimeter system. These service During two weeks several ships search this area looking for the fuselage and the body of the other pilot, but they were not found. Today, it is still a mystery was happened, and where is the fuselage. ************** QUESTIONS: ************** I am analyzing the possibility that the fuselage of the helicopter could still be located in the bottom of the sea. Taking into account that this coast is micro-tidal (it is not influenced by tides, but only by waves in the surface) I would be expeted the helicopter fuselage is still in the same place it crashed in 1989. Nevertheless, this helicopter model had inflatable floats, which is why I need to answer to several questions before to conclude the fuselage is still in this area. If possible, give me your opinion using percentages of probability to each question (of course, your comments are also welcome). Q1) Taking into account that one of the cadaver of one of the pilots was found few hours after the accident, do you think he jumped before the crash (the other alternative would be he had been able to get out the helicopter after the crash)? [Probability 0%-100%] Q2) If the crash happened suddently, do you think the pilots could have activated the inflatable floats before sinking?. [Probability 0%-100%] Q3) If the crash happened because a mechanical failure, and the pilots had a few seconds before, do you think they had time to activate the inflatable floats before the crash/sinking instead (in addition to make efforts to recover the helicopter or jump from it)? [Probability 0%-100%] Q4) Having in mind that the pilots of the Spanish Customs Surveillance fly at low altitude, and that floats require some seconds to be inflated, and supposing they activated the inflation process a few seconds before the crash, do you think the inflatable floats were totally inflated after the crash (i.e. a crash do not affect to the inflation process)? [Probability 0%-100%] Q5) In case the floats were totally or partially inflated, do you think the descending vertical force exerted by the crashed helicopter full of water would be greater than the ascending vertical force exerted by the floats (i.e. the helicopter would directly go to the bottom of sea)? [Probability 0%-100%] Q6) In case the inflation mechanism of floats were not activated, do you think it is possible that the helicopter could remain like an air camera between the top and the bottom of the sea during a certain time (hours/days)? [Probability 0%-100%] Q7) In case the inflation mechanism of floats were activated, and the floats were totally or partially inflated, do you think it is possible that the helicopter could remain like an air camera between the top and the bottom of the sea during a certain time (hours/days)? [Probability 0%-100%]
Hi Everyone, Some of you may have known my Fiance, Andrew Ridge - known on here as ADRidge... and if you are unaware, he was killed a few weeks ago in a wire strike accident up in Washington state while riding along with another pilot to review what he'd be doing there. It's a devastating loss as he was so young, so talented and had such a bright future. I am not a pilot, and that is why I am here - I need the advice and information of some of you. I'm aware that wire strikes are some of the most common and fatal accidents that occur in the helicopter world - and I want to know more about what improvements can be made to save people's lives and make flying around power lines safer. I've read and seen some videos of the WSPS, Radar and Laser based systems, The Powerline Detector System, and power line markers etc - I could not find any up-to-date information however and the FAA safety documents I did find were from around 2005. At that time - it said many of these safety measures could not be implemented on smaller civilian helicopters due to weight, cost, and the power they pull. Does anyone know what systems are currently available for small civ helicopters or where I could get that info? What I also really want to know is whether there are any laws or regulations currently in place that require any of the above safety measures for cherry drying and other ag/utility work that specifically requires pilots to fly near power lines as part of their job? I don't know nearly as much about the aviation world as all of you - but I do know this seems like an area that has some room for improvement... and as someone who has just lost an entire future with her pilot, I am willing to do whatever I can to help make sure it happens to as few other pilots and their loved ones as possible. I appreciate any information, advice, or resources you can provide me with. *Sarah (ADRidge's Girl)