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I just went there. It said $200/hr., but you need to reserve at least a 5hr. block to get it. And there in Idaho. :o

 

Hey, flying in Idaho isn't so bad. I haven't flown with the owner, but have flow 437DE (did a bit of my instrument training in it). Nice aircraft, and winter flying in the Boise area can be good, altho probably not as good as Florida.

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Whirlybird Helicopters out of Northern Utah and Iowa offer R44 time at $330 an hour dual and $300 an hour solo. Both are wet and there’s no pre and post, fuel surcharge, no must buy bulk time, or any other extra charges. Whirlybird is also at the base of 12,000ft mountains and a field elevation of 4600ft msl.

 

801-726-3627

info@flywhirly.com

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I just went there. It said $200/hr., but you need to reserve at least a 5hr. block to get it. And there in Idaho. :o

 

I don't know, if I see Ad's that offer Helicopters for a price that is about 50% less than the average rate of that particular aircraft, that is for me an indicator that this company is desperate to get their Helicopters in the air.

 

Many flight schools are offering their R44 in a price range of 400$-550$ to cover, paying off the Aircraft, insurance, hanger rent, mechanic, people in the office, CFI/CFII, plus other business expenses AND the owner of the company has to cover his living expenses as well.

 

The fix costs operating an aircraft are high(even if its sitting in the hanger) but you have to put money aside to be able to cover maintenance and unexpected maintenance.

 

Cheaper rates--> less income --> the quality of maintenance decreases and the company can't keep up with payments --> bank starts to reposes the aircraft...you know what will happen after this step...

 

Sure its nice to get flight time for way less and it will help students to afford their flight training/ratings but with cheap rates arises new problems for the company....

 

I don't know this company and I don't know their financial situation. I assume this company tries to attract more customers and hopefully they will stick around.

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well, not to raise a stink, but wouldn't all this be considered advertising on a site for free that requires payment to advertise?

 

just wondering moderators

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well, not to raise a stink, but wouldn't all this be considered advertising on a site for free that requires payment to advertise?

 

just wondering moderators

 

Probably, but it's a fine line between sharing info (about an offer or a school) and free advertising. Unless you count the warm fuzzy feeling I get thinking I'm helping out anybody trying to get the hours they need to do what they want to do, I don't benefit at all by talking about Heliquest or any other school. PM me if you want my opinion on HelicQuest's aircraft, the environment, or maintenance and I'll tell you what I know. If you're stuck on the East Coast, there is a school out that way that offers a decent rate for R44 time, and I've flown with a school that offers Schweitzer time for 60% of what any other school offers it for. Of those 3, only Heliquest advertises on JH or VR.

 

As for interpreting the motivations for the cost, $200/hour is near the hourly operating cost for an R44. Offering it at that rate isn't much different than offering an R22 at $150-175/hour if you aren't in the business of selling flight instruction, or have low overhead costs and/or a way of subsidizing the cost.

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I have flown with Heliquest and can say it is good experience. He is able to do this because he purchased his overhaul kit in the SSH bankruptcy and is not in it to make a fortune. He mostly flies in between his work schedule. Does not have an office nor staff to support. He found a way to reduce overall operating cost and run a viable business. Thinking outside the box really.

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I've flown with Heliquest also. I bought 20 hrs @ $200/hr in March of 2009. We flew up to the mountains in the north, Oregon river canyons to the west, and to West Yellowstone, Montana to the east for lunch. It was a great time. Plus we got to build see hundereds if not thousands of elk and deer. This is not a scam @ 200/hr. PM me if anyone wants more info.

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I've flown with Heliquest also. I bought 20 hrs @ $200/hr in March of 2009. We flew up to the mountains in the north, Oregon river canyons to the west, and to West Yellowstone, Montana to the east for lunch. It was a great time. Plus we got to build see hundereds if not thousands of elk and deer. This is not a scam @ 200/hr. PM me if anyone wants more info.

 

I don't really need any more 44 time, but that area is some of the most beautiful country. Heck, I might go just for the tour value!

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