r22butters Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Ok, here's another 'can of worms' for you. I have been told recently that what the industry needs, is "more students". I guess more students means more CFis can build more time, and then move in to all those jobs out there just waiting for them to get to 1000hrs.? I say, all this does, is just create that bottleneck that they showed us at the Vegas Seminar last year. I think there are too many pilots in this industry, and I base this on the hundreds of pilots with whom I've had to compete for every job for which I've found to apply. I say, the industry has to create more jobs for low-time pilots, that do not involve simply,...making more pilots! Anyway, I would like to here what the rest of you think, and don't be affraid to 'rip me a new one' , I'm a big boy, I can take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADRidge Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 I think just the opposite. Alot of us newly minted CFI's are just going to have to find another career. All the data I've seen as far as the amount of flying jobs out there point to a fairly steady number of slots. The amount of students that have been pushed through in recent years, however, has increased dramatically. That being said, I'm not going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67november Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Well I saw an ad the other day for a truck driving school using the same tactics as the helo schools. drivers/pilots are needed because........ I have trucker friends that are fighting to get loads much like the newly minted CFI's trying to find work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apiaguy Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 the "industry" does not have to create more jobs, YOU need to create a job for yourself. Go rent/buy/lease a helicopter and start doing what YOU can legally do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomPPL Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 I say, the industry has to create more jobs for low-time pilots, that do not involve simply,...making more pilots! In the grand scheme of things, it is not entirely industry which creates the jobs, it's the market. If there is no market for a service or an item, there is no demand, no demand means no jobs. Asking the industry to solve this problem may be a little harsh (other than asking the flight schools to reduce candidate numbers which we all know isn't possible). If the industry had a market for jobs that low time pilots could fill they would be jumping over each other to capitalise on it, after all, they'd have a bottomless pit of employees ready to help the business expand to epic proportions - they'd cream money in! The sole reason I reckon this is happening is because no company out there can find a market that this business model would apply to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 The system seems flawed in that a flight school always needs more students than instructors, but those students will all have to become instructors to get hours. On the fixed-wing side they have regional airlines to fill this gap, as well as other jobs that cater to low time pilots. In addition there are many students who have other careers and never become CFI's, instead stopping at private because it is a hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gomer Pylot Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Increase the pay for CFIs by about 400%, and you'll start seeing experienced pilots do that job, opening the market for newer pilots in other jobs. Plus, you won't have the blind teaching the blind. But students want cheap instruction, and that's what they get. Then they have no way to recoup that 'cheap' investment. It's a vicious cycle, and I see no end to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r22butters Posted October 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 67november Posted Yesterday, 20:49 Well I saw an ad the other day for a truck driving school using the same tactics as the helo schools. drivers/pilots are needed because........ I have trucker friends that are fighting to get loads much like the newly minted CFI's trying to find work I almost fell for that one myself. apiaguy Posted Yesterday, 23:11 the "industry" does not have to create more jobs, YOU need to create a job for yourself. Go rent/buy/lease a helicopter and start doing what YOU can legally do! Sadly, none of the companies from which I have rented will allow me to do any commercial work in their helicopters. And if I had the means to buy/lease a helicopter, I would. , thanks anyway,though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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