viking Posted June 11, 2010 Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 Hi everyone, An interesting pic from my iphone as I was power washing a few bugs off the blades. viking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoverMatt Posted June 12, 2010 Report Share Posted June 12, 2010 That is funky. Forgive a noob question but do the blades really curve like that when spinning or is that an optical illusion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67november Posted June 12, 2010 Report Share Posted June 12, 2010 it's an illusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justfly Posted June 12, 2010 Report Share Posted June 12, 2010 it's an illusionbut this is not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67november Posted June 12, 2010 Report Share Posted June 12, 2010 but this is not... I was shown that in Huey school back in '84 that vid has been around for a very long time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trans Lift Posted June 12, 2010 Report Share Posted June 12, 2010 Shutter speed on the camera playing with your eyes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpngonuts Posted June 12, 2010 Report Share Posted June 12, 2010 Sharp looking 280 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascj Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 interesting how the huey blade bends the same way on each revolution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagMan Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 (edited) Is that really exercising good pilot judgement to leave the blades turning with no pilot inside the aircraft? That is somewhat setting a bad example for any student pilot or aspiring pilot on this forum. I know it is just a little piston aircraft, but none the less. Edited June 13, 2010 by RagMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clay Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 its not bad judgement...it may not be the SAFEST thing to do, but then again... helicopter's in general may not be the SAFEST thing to do. but we still get in them and love it. I get out to pee regularly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trans Lift Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 We get out all the time too. I dont think it is exercising bad judgement thats for sure. Sometimes it's not economical to shut down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trans Lift Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 interesting how the huey blade bends the same way on each revolution. Yo do know that blades don't actually bend like that and that it is a camera trick, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoverMatt Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 Yo do know that blades don't actually bend like that and that it is a camera trick, right? I think he's talking about the video justfly posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arotrhd Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 I still enjoy seeing those types of images and vids...I really liked the vid of a fire 212 that had a frozen M/R...and still lifted off. Ok, back to the serious stuff: its not bad judgement...it may not be the SAFEST thing to do, but then again... helicopter's in general may not be the SAFEST thing to do. but we still get in them and love it. & We get out all the time too. I don't think it is exercising bad judgment that's for sure. Sometimes it's not economical to shut down.... I'm with Ragman on this (although I do understand the practical-operational responses). It's not bad judgement until the friction loosens a little and the ship balls up. Then, after reporting to FAA & NTSB, FAA asks who was at controls and was it an emergency situation. What's that, nobody and it wasn't an emergency? OK, let's review RFM limitation section for flightcrew requirements - for example, the R44 has 1 minimum, 206L-4 has 1 minimum, 212 has 1 minimum/ 2 if cargo is flammable mat'ls. I don't have an Enstrom RFM available, but I would be curious to see if they differ much. Then, the FAA opens up 91.3, 91.9 & 91.13 on you. They might cut some slack under 91.105, but still would be looking at a checkride with FSDO inspector, maybe a suspension if this is a chronic issue. Then, insurance. "Who was at the controls? WHO was at the controls?...Gee, does the policy cover operation with nobody at controls?" You know where these will end up. Flying is not about using good judgment; it is about exercising your best judgment - always. Nuf said. -WATCH FOR THE PATTERNS, WATCH FOR THE WIRES- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted June 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 Safety first. To clarify the circumstances surrounding the washing of the blades of this helicopter it may be useful to add that this takes place in a sheltered environment in nil wind conditions at my private hanger. The throttle and collective frictions are 100% operational and are on, in addition there is a strap over the collective that is secured to the air frame . The engine is running at 1800 rpm and with a minute of water directly onto the blades they are spotless in 60secs. In Australia as i am sure it is in the US and other countries, especially in our outback for refueling, hot unmanned aircraft are a fact of life all commonsence precautions taken i dont have an issue with it. regardsViking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascj Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 thanks hovermatt, i was talking about the huey. inregards to being outside of a running machine, it is common practice in some industries. As its not always practical or safe to turn off the machine. BUT this does not mean we do it for the sake of doing it. As AROTRHD said 'it is about exercising your best judgment.' most accidents i have seen have not come about from poor handling skills but from bad decisions.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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