Hotdogs Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Honestly, If somebody needs to talk to you into flying Apaches, then the Apache is not for you. Its better if you fly 60's of 58's. I am not in yet, as of right now I have no guarantees that I will get in or that I will be selected for an Apache, but I however have been obsessed with that air frame since I started studying Aviation. I have read tons and tons of reference material, documentation, operating manuals, cutaway drawings and schematics regarding the Apache helicopter. I even built a flight simulator. All of this, just so I could get a better feel of what it would be to fly one of these incredible flying machines. I want to be the harbinger of death and destruction. You do realize how gay this sounds right? My only thought i had recently about this is that when and if i ever fly into combat, i want to be the one shooting from a safe distance, not landing a barely armed helo in a hot lz taking fire for a medevac... If i were you id pick apaches for the safer situations youd be put in.... On the flip side, if you pick 60s, and live through your career, theres better chances of branching to coast guard, af, navy, civilian 60s, or others. You arent stuck army forever like u would be in 64s... If you're picking your aircraft based on how it is going to set you up for success later on or how "safe" it is going to be, you're doing it wrong. You probably joined the wrong business. You'd be naive to think that Apaches don't get into knife fights too. Pick the mission, not the airframe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 You do realize how gay this sounds right? If you are not passionate about a low paying, highly demanding job such as flying helicopters; why are you doing it then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBuzzkill Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Sometimes it's better to stop talking... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishvp Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Just to finish off this post... I selected UH-60s and put Drum, Savannah, and Colorado as my top three... Studying 5&9's now, and oh my God it is a pain trying to relearn terminology... They refer to the same damn components and call it something completely different... TGT (Turbine Gas Temp) instead of TOT (Turbine Outlet Temp)... Just for starters... it gets worse... But I'm Happy with my choice... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
av8rnik Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 is airframe selection and first duty station selection done at the same time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsey Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Just to finish off this post... I selected UH-60s and put Drum, Savannah, and Colorado as my top three... Studying 5&9's now, and oh my God it is a pain trying to relearn terminology... They refer to the same damn components and call it something completely different... TGT (Turbine Gas Temp) instead of TOT (Turbine Outlet Temp)... Just for starters... it gets worse... But I'm Happy with my choice... A/L or M? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d10 Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 TGT (Turbine Gas Temp) instead of TOT (Turbine Outlet Temp)... If you want to get really technical TGT in a Black Hawk is measured just before the turbine, not after, so it's kind of different. They should have named it Turbine Inlet Temp to avoid ambiguity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsey Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 If you want to get really technical TGT in a Black Hawk is measured just before the turbine, not after, so it's kind of different. They should have named it Turbine Inlet Temp to avoid ambiguity. That would be an interesting acronym. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloidaho Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Wait till you use the acronymn FATHOE in Primary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Ive heard that first 5&9 test in the 60 course is a ball-buster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotdogs Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 If you want to get really technical TGT in a Black Hawk is measured just before the turbine, not after, so it's kind of different. They should have named it Turbine Inlet Temp to avoid ambiguity.T700-401s right? Pretty sure I jacked your engine manuals. Flipping through it does say TGT, but our NATOPs refers to it as MGT, or measured gas temp, I wonder what the bassackwards rationale the engineers have for that. Considering they're nearly identical. I know there are new electrical control units in the upgrades, I wonder what the 60M and Block III Apache are toting around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d10 Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 T-700-701C. That's standard on the L models, and most of the A models have been upgraded. And a lot of those have been further upgraded with some 701D components. The M model and Block III Apache uses full 701Ds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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