DC8488 Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) I should probably stop and introduce myself instead of jumping in and gabbing away. I am 29 years old, married and have 5 children (9y - 4m). I have 6 years enlisted active duty Air Force as an Aricraft Armament Technician on F-15s and F-22s. Seperated in 2006. Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University - BS Techncial Management w/Aviation Safety minor (3.3 GPA)King College - M.B.A. (4.0 GPA).ASVAB - 97 / 137 GTAPFT - 281 (78 PUs, 64 SUs, 12:28 2mi) 290 on 8/24/12AFAST - 141Class 1 - Complete / Pending Ft. Rucker ApprovalLoRs - 6: AF LtCol, Army Maj (AV), Army CW4 (AV), Hospital CEO, Engineering Manager and Program ManagerActive Security ClearanceDA Photo - Check I currently work for a defense contracter as a Supervisor. I have everything complete. I am working with my recruiter to wrap up my package and get it turned in. Those are my stats, look forward to learning from everyone's input. Good Luck to all WOFT Applicants! Hope to meet you all at Rucker... Edited August 30, 2012 by WOFTApp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamer Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 why not ocs or is that your route? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC8488 Posted July 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Age disqualifies me for the OCS route, 28 is the cutoff and waviers are not being accepted at this time. Even if I was eligible I would go WO, I want to fly. I have had my experience in a management role and it is not for me. Also, from what I hear, AV slots are very difficult to get in OCS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamer Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 ah okay i don't know much about the OCS route cause it doesnt apply to me. any flight time with those degrees you got? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC8488 Posted July 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 None for the log books. I went to ERAU through a worldwide center at Edwards AFB. As far as helos go, I have ridden in a HU-1 and some CH-46s (we had Marines on base) on a recovery mission for a downed F-16. Took a discovery flight in a Schweizer 300 a few months back and got to handle the controls for a while. Couldn't find the hover button though. Must have been on the left side of the cockpit... I feel this is my biggest weakness in my packet. Seeing others getting selected without flight hours is a nice confidence booster. I cannot justify the expenditure of a ppl at this point in my life (see 5 kids above). Plus, I burned up my GI Bill on the MBA. Hindsight, I should have used it for flight school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamer Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) im in your boat with the flight school/kids/family thing. and youre exactly right about the nice feeling of seeing someone with no flight hours get accepted. i found the hover button in the UH-60 simulator after about an hour of hover practice lol the instructor was like "you want to spend a how long trying to hover?" as if i'm crazy or something lol then we flew a two hour flight which was mixed both vfr and ifr. thats 3 of the 4 hours i have in a cockpit. intro flight is the other hour. Edited July 17, 2012 by Yamer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsey Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 im in your boat with the flight school/kids/family thing. and youre exactly right about the nice feeling of seeing someone with no flight hours get accepted. i found the hover button in the UH-60 simulator after about an hour of hover practice lol the instructor was like "you want to spend a how long trying to hover?" as if i'm crazy or something lol then we flew a two hour flight which was mixed both vfr and ifr. thats 3 of the 4 hours i have in a cockpit. intro flight is the other hour. Keep in mind that typically, the bigger the helicopter = the easier it is to hover. Can't really compare hovering a UH-60 to hovering a tiny Schweizer 300. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloidaho Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 I'm a former AF guy at Rucker now. Your packet looks solid. Good luck! Don't worry if you don't have the hover button. Even down here people take a while to find it. WOFT is the way to go, anyway. If you get selected, try to get those situps up in the 90% range! You'll do less PT at B Company after WOCS. It is well worth it. Less early mornings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloidaho Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Keep in mind that typically, the bigger the helicopter = the easier it is to hover. Can't really compare hovering a UH-60 to hovering a tiny Schweizer 300. ;-) Plus the 60 has heading hold. A lot of my buddies in the 60 course don't even touch pedals when they come to a hover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamer Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Keep in mind that typically, the bigger the helicopter = the easier it is to hover. Can't really compare hovering a UH-60 to hovering a tiny Schweizer 300. ;-)mood killer lol I guess I never really thought of it that way. Plus it was a simulator and not outside in the wind and stuff. Plus the 60 has heading hold. A lot of my buddies in the 60 course don't even touch pedals when they come to a hover.helpful to know now lol but i dont think it was on for me cause i was ALL OVER those things... lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
av8rnik Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 I'm a former AF guy at Rucker now. Your packet looks solid. Good luck! Don't worry if you don't have the hover button. Even down here people take a while to find it. WOFT is the way to go, anyway. If you get selected, try to get those situps up in the 90% range! You'll do less PT at B Company after WOCS. It is well worth it. Less early mornings. Getting a little ahead of myself but curious. Are you living on base at Rucker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC8488 Posted July 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 I'm a former AF guy at Rucker now. Your packet looks solid. Good luck! Don't worry if you don't have the hover button. Even down here people take a while to find it. WOFT is the way to go, anyway. Thanks! I am starting to get pretty antsy now. I miss the military life greatly (so does the fam) and this would be my "dream" job; flying Helos in the Army. Can't wait... Since you're down there. Can you get my flight phycial approved? Its been there for 2 weeks now and no issues were noted. If you get selected, try to get those situps up in the 90% range! You'll do less PT at B Company after WOCS. It is well worth it. Less early mornings. Yeah, I was used to the AF crunches and not the Army sit ups. The first time I took the APFT I only did 38 sit ups and my hip flexors exploded. A hit it hard core for the next week and got up to 64, a 168% improvement in a week. My mistake was doing abdnominal exercises but not the actual sit ups. A week later, I can probably get in the low 70s now. I should be maxing it in less than a month. Lesson learned, do it the way you are tested. My favorite workout, two sets of tabata sit ups a day. Works great for push ups and sprints as well. Thanks for the heads up. A little more motivation to keep working on it! Disclaimer: I am already in very good shape, getting these types of short term results are from muscle memory and not from gaining endurance or strength; just my body learning how to do them. Do not expect this type of progress unless you are already physically fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Plus the 60 has heading hold. A lot of my buddies in the 60 course don't even touch pedals when they come to a hover. Dont sell all the goodies in your 64 short.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloidaho Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Since you're down there. Can you get my flight phycial approved? Its been there for 2 weeks now and no issues were noted. The medical is a pain. I have to get a new up slip this much, and it isn't a load of fun to get it done even when you are here in person. Hopefully you get the approval soon. It took me a while to get mine in the system before boards. Av8rnik, I do live on base on Rucker. Can't beat a 10 minute commute to work or school during every phase of training. And the 64 has loads of goodies. We do have to use the pedals... to get off the squat switch. After that, while hovering, heading hold is a joy. In the pattern I still try to kick the trim ball out of the helicopter from time to time but I am learning. Slowly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC8488 Posted July 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Keep in mind that typically, the bigger the helicopter = the easier it is to hover. Can't really compare hovering a UH-60 to hovering a tiny Schweizer 300. ;-) Yeah, it felt like I was trying to stand on a swiss ball in a hurricane. Plus, I only had to worry about the cyclic the IP had the pedals, throttle and collective. Needless to say I was humbled that day, but it made me want to fly helos even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC8488 Posted July 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Update: Just called Rucker concerning my class 1 with a phone number I found on the USAREC website. Qualified! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
av8rnik Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 They didnt mind you calling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamer Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Shows initiative i suppose. Great to hear youre good to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC8488 Posted July 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 They didnt mind you calling? No, they were rather nice about it actually. The call lasted all of about 2 mins. Told me to pass the word along to my recruiter. I don't see how they can be upset if the USAREC website says this: Any questions concerning physicals at Fort Rucker should be addressed to Mr. Garcia at (334)598-8955. http://www.usarec.ar...requ/woft.shtml 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamer Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) HA so there is a website that applies to civilians! nice find and thank you tons for posting that link Edited July 18, 2012 by Yamer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC8488 Posted July 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 You might like this one as well: http://www.usarec.army.mil/im/formpub/REC_PUBS/R601_91.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
av8rnik Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 No, they were rather nice about it actually. The call lasted all of about 2 mins. Told me to pass the word along to my recruiter. I don't see how they can be upset if the USAREC website says this: http://www.usarec.ar...requ/woft.shtml I dont know how i didnt find this before...so here is a question for everyone. Are you including a resume since it is optional for the street to seat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamer Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 You might like this one as well: http://www.usarec.army.mil/im/formpub/REC_PUBS/R601_91.pdf Yeh ive read that one before but must have completely missed the woft one... Yes im doing a resume but a civilian version not the resume formatted on the warrant site. Remember, its just your packet at rucker to get accepted so its gonna need all it can get to be competitive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakfishr19 Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 Update: Just called Rucker concerning my class 1 with a phone number I found on the USAREC website. Qualified! How long did you wait after your flight physical to contact them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC8488 Posted July 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 How long did you wait after your flight physical to contact them? It has been about 3 weeks since I completed the physical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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