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Would magnets ruin a david clark passive headset?


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Might be a dumb question...or not - I just have no idea! Im thinking about turning the headset carrying case into a magnetic tank bag for my motorcycle. I havent gotten the headsets yet, but they are on the way and they do come with an asa carrying case. My backpack is full as it is and I couldnt imagine stuffing the headsets into it. I have to ride my motorcycle to school everyday, cause my girl uses our car - so my bike is pretty much my commuter to get to school. Would be nice to just mount some magnets in the bag and slap her on the tank with no worries.

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I agree there are a lot of magnetic fields inside a helicopter instrument panel and if it ruined headsets there would be a lot of pissed off pilots. Well, I guess following this forum you would think that there ARE a lot of pissed off pilots, but they're pissed for other reasons.

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Done deal then..im going to get a bunch of smaller powerful magnets, probably n48-n52 (which I just learned are some measurements they use for magnets, im not some magnet pro)..the guys on the Honda Vfr800 forum I talk to said lots of smaller magnets would be better to minimize any chance of a bigger magnet just slamming hard onto my tank by accident.

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I wouldn't put magnets near my headset. Or my helmet. For headsets, I use Bose, and I wouldn't risk a thousand bucks on magnets. Yes, there are magnets in your headset speakers, and yes, they probably could be affected by placing magnets nearby.

 

Magnetic fields in the airplane are different than placing magnets near your headset.

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While I don't see any problem at all with the headset and magnets, I do see a huge problem with that method of mounting. I don't believe it will stay on the motorcycle. Magnets just aren't strong enough for that, given all the possible g-forces. Velcro would work, I think, but I would never trust magnets to keep my headset from bouncing down the highway, being hit by a few dozen cars before coming to a halt on the shoulder. That will certainly cause unrepairable damage. There are many methods of holding the bag that are more secure.

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Acutally, come to think of it, I suppose a powerful magnet could have the potential to change a smaller magnets polarity, which might make the headset not work correctly. I'm not 100% on this either way, and I retract my above statement that it would probably be fine. No sense taking the chance. Gomer's comment also ring true.

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Acutally, come to think of it, I suppose a powerful magnet could have the potential to change a smaller magnets polarity, which might make the headset not work correctly. I'm not 100% on this either way, and I retract my above statement that it would probably be fine. No sense taking the chance. Gomer's comment also ring true.

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Well maybe I should contact david clark and ask them if it would be a problem. As for whether or not magnets would hold a bag onto a tank - Im not worried about that because people use magnetic motorcycle tank bags everyday worldwide. Theres a whole section of them down at the local motorcycle shop. The only thing that worries me is possibly ruining the headset. Ill definitely give david clark a call and see what the deal is! Thanks for the comments, and if anyone else has any experiences to share on the situation - that would be great.

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So this is the response I got from one of David Clark's Field Support Technicians:

 

"Hi Mike,

 

CS asked me to help. The magnets should not harm anything on the headset. If they were VERY strong perhaps the earphones could be affected but I don't think this is very likely. Please let me know how you make out."

 

Seems like it should be fine.

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I just spoke with a technical representative at Bose who said something similar. His immediate concern was the use of magnets on the headset while the headset was in use. For carriage or storage with magnets nearby, however, he said "I believe you'd have to go out of your way to do damage to the transducer by the proximate use of magnetic fields."

 

That said, given the cost of my headsets and their importance to my ability to earn a living, I'd just as soon keep them well separated from magnets.

 

I don't know what the potential is for introducing magnetism to the david clark headset or frame, but I don't carry magnets in the cockpit, as they can affect the compass and other equipment.

 

If it were me on that motorcycle, I'd carry the headset in a backpack, as I used to do when riding a motorcycle.

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I havent asked my school about storage yet. I guess I just assumed storage was pretty slim - seeing that we have cubbyholes for students and the instructors have closets with locks on them. I could maybe ask my instructor if i could leave them in his locker, I just dont want to start any trends lol. And about the backpack - its pretty full as it is already with books, water, lunch.. Ill wait until the headsets actually get here and ill take a look at the bag and see what I can do. It seems like the magnets wouldnt be an issue - but maybe ill lean towards my second option, which is adding wings to the bag so the magnets wouldnt even be near the headsets - like any other tank bags. You think this would be the least of my worries 2 weeks into training lol But buying a motorcycle tank bag is pretty much out of the question right now as im on a pretty strict budget until I decide whether or not I can or should take on 1-2 days a week bartending. Thanks for the help fellow members!

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I havent asked my school about storage yet. I guess I just assumed storage was pretty slim - seeing that we have cubbyholes for students and the instructors have closets with locks on them. I could maybe ask my instructor if i could leave them in his locker, I just dont want to start any trends lol. And about the backpack - its pretty full as it is already with books, water, lunch.. Ill wait until the headsets actually get here and ill take a look at the bag and see what I can do. It seems like the magnets wouldnt be an issue - but maybe ill lean towards my second option, which is adding wings to the bag so the magnets wouldnt even be near the headsets - like any other tank bags. You think this would be the least of my worries 2 weeks into training lol But buying a motorcycle tank bag is pretty much out of the question right now as im on a pretty strict budget until I decide whether or not I can or should take on 1-2 days a week bartending. Thanks for the help fellow members!

 

Maybe you need a bigger backpack?

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You could just get rid of the books. I believe they're all available for free in pdf, if you can afford a "reader"?

 

...or you could wear the headset to school, if your state doesn't require a helmet? :P

 

Personally, I would just get saddle bags, but something tells me you don't ride that type of bike.

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I ride a 1998 Honda Vfr800, which they do make saddle bags/ luggage for, but yea that stuffs not cheap! I prefer actual books to study with.. I think things will work out whether I make room in my backpack or magnetize it to my tank. Its not really a huge deal - even if there were magnets in the headset case, I could fashion it in a way that the part that sticks on the tank has a thinner layer of material, and the inside has a thick layer to not attract metal or the speakers magnets at all. Maybe some rubber or extra layers of material.

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I have a tank bag and have put my DC headset in there a few times. I haven't had any issues. But the magnets are in wings like you were talking about doing, so I don't have the problem you'd be facing without them

 

I see a couple viable solutions to your problem. Bigger back pack. Attach them to the outside of your current back pack by way of a carribeaner, or get a small elastic cargo net and attach them to either the back seat or the back pack.

 

The issue I see with putting the wings on your headset case is they they will flap around like wings (go figure) when they aren't attached to your tank.

 

 

EDIT: What about putting them underneath the back seat in your "trunk?" Is there enough room in there? Looks like a big trunk space to me looking at pictures of the bike on google...

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Nah not enough room under the seat! All I can fit in there is a spare regulator, wiring, ziplock with documents, and the small honda tool kit. I actually got my headsets in the mail yesterday and the case wasnt as big as it looked on the pictures. I was able to put them in my backpack with my big water bottle, lunch, and a couple of books in the laptop sleeve. I could probably fit more if I have to, but right now in my training I dont have a need to take multiple books to school. I study better at home anyway so I just take good notes in a notebook and study it along with books and internet at home. I still may look into getting a tank bag or customize in the future.

 

On a side note, im coming up on my stage 2 exam for my private license. Pretty stoked about how things are going...Showing progress in flight and putting some good hours of study in!

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