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Weighing the Competition?


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  1. 1. What's your flight weight? (sorry, but this one's for dudes only, since I have yet to meet a female pilot who's heavier than myself))

    • 100-150 lbs
      3
    • 150-185 lbs
      20
    • 185-200 lbs
      12
    • 200+ lbs
      11


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140 lbs in the bag and booted is gonna be exceptional, male or female. I think I've worked with 2 medical types out of a hundred or so, who hit that standard in the last 12 years.

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They obviously want a chick. Deal with it.

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They obviously want a chick. Deal with it.

 

Obviously so….

 

I haven’t weighed 140 lbs since I was 13. Anytime I see these ridiculous requirements, I know the operator is clueless…. Plus, I feel bad for the low time guys cuz these are the jobs which COULD provide them a shot. But no. For this particular R22 CFI job, ya goatta have tra-lot-de-dah…… WAJ…..

 

The reality is, these ad’s provide clues. In this case, this is not an operator you want to work for…..

 

My weight is 190. Fully geared I go up to 227. When I was an R22 instructor I was 190. My heaviest student was at the limitation, 240.

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A recent job ad requires 140 lbs or less,...damn that's light! I haven't been that light since I was about 12, and I'm not fat! Are there any "jockys" out there, or is this a position only a chick could apply to?

 

"American Helicopters, Inc in Manassas, Virginia (KHEF) is seeking a helicopter certified flight instructor-instrument instructor with the RHC safety course and 500 hours minimum instruction given in an R-22 (no exceptions). A weight requirement of 140 pounds or less is a requirement for this position along with instrument instruction experience. No accidents and clean FAA record. Position starts at $25.00 per hour and AHI will offer up to $2500.00 in moving expenses if hired."

 

I would guess they have some type of special training contract, were the client has mostly 215- 240-pound students.

 

American Helicopters, Inc. states they offer Law Enforcement Helicopter Services. If they’re trying to train LE in the R22 with some type of LE equipment installed and a specific fuel requirement, that could be a reason for the 140 weight. They’ll likely end up around 175 lbs. min.

 

Someone out there has the scope on AHI

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Sounds like BS..You don't put students weighing 215-240 in a R22 and who is using R22 for LE work? Sounds like they need a R44 if that is the case. They want a experienced CFII under 140lbs to fly a R22 for $25 a hour? Either this pilot market is worse than I thought or they will never get what they are looking for.

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You don't put students weighing 215-240 in a R22 and who is using R22 for LE work?

 

They have R44's; however, we don't know what type of training, standard or special training they have planned for the R22. It could be as stated above, they just want a woman.

 

I know a few that have trained in the R22 at the max 240 lbs.

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who is using R22 for LE work?

 

 

Robinson sold a few...

 

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Also used in LE Training:

 

Guillaume has trained countless individuals and numerous Law Enforcement officers how to become pilots. Guillaume's passion for training people how to fly helicopters has helped LAH build the most comprehensive and industry respected professional flight training programs available.

 

Despite his logged hours in larger turbine helicopters, his training helicopter of choice used during our police curriculum is the R22. Guillaume believes strongly that the training instincts and habits one learns in the R22 will make them a better skilled and safer pilot in anything they move on to fly.

 

In 2006 Guillaume join the Robinson Safety Course Team as one of the Factory Instructors.

http://www.lahelicop...ement-team.html

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I have actually trained with Guillaume at LAH, but they are just training police officers to be pilots. Nothing more or less. I'm not aware of any "LE equipment" on any of their R22. I don't know of any pilots at LAH under 140lbs and bigger guys (police officers or not) are forced to train in the R44.

 

I'm aware that Robinson has a police R22, R44 & R66. I have flown the LE R44 and will tell you that it does not have enough power to be a good LE ship. Im not aware of anyone actually using the R22 for LE.

 

Im sure that we could come up with a lot of excuses why 140lb pilot is necessary, but it really comes down to this being ridiculous. I'm surprised it flys since hiring discrimination is such a big deal

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The reality is, these ad’s provide clues. In this case, this is not an operator you want to work for…..

 

...unless you're a (skinny) chick.

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