Cherry Drying: NAMING NAMES!!

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Has the Jesus Nut come off the forum cause it is starting to get a little weird in here.........

 

Haha! I see what you did there.

[DS_HMMR]

Has the Jesus Nut come off the forum cause it is starting to get a little weird in here.........

 

THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is pure WIN. nice job.

[JDHelicopterPilot]

Thus, the thread s a wrap!

[Helipilot PTK]

Lots of respect has been lost...

[Trans Lift]

Shut her down Lyn! No cool down necessary

[helistar]

WOW... I'm amazed this is still going...

 

Nearly Retired...

I'll leave you with these words of wisdom and please don't take it personally...

Simply accept it as words of advice...

 

Some Christians have labeled atheists as stupid or morally void. Though there may be some atheists who fit these categories (as would many in the general population), atheists are not categorically stupid, degenerates with no morals. Many of them are fine citizens, honest, caring, loving, and patient. For a Christian to start off with such a blanket statement can backfire.

 

Pride is a harmful thing. It caused the fall. It ruins marriages. It leads to anger and self-righteousness. It has no place in the Christian's life. Never admitting you are wrong is being prideful. If an atheist, or anyone, proves you wrong in something, be kind and courteous. Admit you made a mistake and go on. Everyone makes mistakes, even atheists. There is nothing wrong with admitting an error. That doesn't mean you are wrong about Christianity any more than being wrong about the color of a boat means boats don't exist. On the other hand, if you never admit when you are wrong, you will not be able to convince anyone of your position when in a discussion. You will simply lose the respect of the one with whom you are debating.

[iChris]

PRINCETON, NJ -- While more than nine in 10 Americans would vote for a presidential candidate who is black, a woman, Catholic, Hispanic, or Jewish, significantly smaller percentages would vote for one who is an atheist (54%) or Muslim (58%). Americans' willingness to vote for a Mormon (80%) or gay or lesbian (68%) candidate falls between these two extremes.

 

The 2006 University of Minnesota study made a lot news about its revelation of how atheists are the most despised minority in America, but this wasn't news to atheists — it was just the most recent in a long series of surveys showing that Americas are very bigoted and prejudiced against atheists. For as long as organizations have been asking Americans about atheists, Americans have been responding that they wouldn't treat atheists as equals to theists and Christians.

[iChris]

UNELECTABLE ATHEISTS: 7 U.S. STATES THAT PROHIBIT GODLESS AMERICANS FROM HOLDING PUBLIC OFFICE

 

Arkansas, Article 19, Section 1 No person who denies the being of a God shall hold any office in the civil departments of this State, nor be competent to testify as a witness in any Court.

 

Maryland, Article 37 That no religious test ought ever to be required as a qualification for any office of profit or trust in this State, other than a declaration of belief in the existence of God; nor shall the Legislature prescribe any other oath of office than the oath prescribed by this Constitution.

 

Mississippi, Article 14, Section 265 No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office in this state.

 

North Carolina, Article 6, Section 8 The following persons shall be disqualified for office: Any person who shall deny the being of Almighty God.

 

South Carolina, Article 17, Section 4 No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office under this Constitution.

 

Tennessee, Article 9, Section 2 No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and punishments, shall hold any office in the civil department of this state.

 

Texas, Article 1, Section 4 No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being.

 

 

Senators, Representatives, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States (Article VI of the U.S. Constitution).

 

SO WE HAVE TWO OATHS OF OFFICE:

 

Example: North Carolina officeholders, including the Asheville City Council members to be sworn, may take one of two oaths of office:

 

SWEAR: “I, (name), do solemnly and sincerely swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States; that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to the State of North Carolina, and to the constitutional powers and authorities which are or may be established for the government thereof; and that I will endeavor to support, maintain and defend the Constitution of said State, not inconsistent with the Constitution of the United States, to the best of my knowledge and ability; so help me God."

 

AFFIRM: “I, (name), do solemnly and sincerely affirm that I will support the Constitution of the United States; that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to the State of North Carolina, and to the constitutional powers and authorities which are or may be established for the government thereof; and that I will endeavor to support, maintain and defend the Constitution of said State, not inconsistent with the Constitution of the United States, to the best of my knowledge and ability.

 

”Affirming, rather than swearing, also exempts an officeholder from a requirement in North Carolina law to “lay his hand upon the Holy Scriptures, in token of his engagement to speak the truth and in further token that, if he should swerve from the truth, he may be justly deprived of all the blessings of that holy book and made liable to that vengeance which he has imprecated on his own head.

Edited March 1, 2013 by iChris

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UNELECTABLE ATHEISTS: 7 U.S. STATES THAT PROHIBIT GODLESS AMERICANS FROM HOLDING PUBLIC OFFICE

 

Hmmm, I've often wondered how people who don't believe in god get sworn in. Are there still states where its illegal to get a blow job, or have,...butt sex!!!

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Americans' willingness to vote for a Mormon (80%) or gay or lesbian (68%) candidate falls between these two extremes.

 

Why is it that Mormons are lumped with sexual orientation (which has nothing to do with religion) and aren't included with Christian (which they are)?

 

Mormon=Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. It's right there in the name.

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Why is it that Mormons are lumped with sexual orientation (which has nothing to do with religion) and aren't included with Christian (which they are)?

 

Mormon=Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. It's right there in the name.

 

Have you seen "The Book of Mormon" musical?

[Spike]

I wonder what the number of idiots is? Or dumbazzes? How about egotistical maniacs? Know it all’s? How many people have the color blue as their favorite color? How many sociopaths are in this business? How many people believe in the tooth fairy? Why do they call them apartments when their all stuck together? Why is the word "abbreviation" such a long word? Do they have 4th of July in the UK? Why isn’t soggy a part of snap, crackle and pop? If salmon meat was really red, would they color it gray? Will helicopter-hunch be a recognized medical condition in the future? Oooops sorry, I digressed. What is the original topic about?

[Cineron]

Are helicopters from hell?

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Have you seen "The Book of Mormon" musical?

 

No, but then I've never been able to sit all the way through Fiddler on the Roof, either. What have either one got to do with the price of tea in China?

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What have either one got to do with the price of tea in China?

 

To be blunt. Nothing.

 

It has everything to do with Mormons though, which you had made a remark about. I was just asking if you had seen it. Mormon or not, it's worth a look. You should youtube it and watch a clip.

 

...Or not. You don't strike me as a guy with much of a sense of humor.

[Airhead]

All of humanities great mysteries can be answered by this one profound question:

 

If you were a hotdog and you were starving...would you eat yourself?

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All of humanities great mysteries can be answered by this one profound question:

 

If you were a hotdog and you were starving...would you eat yourself?

 

Yes. Yes I would.

[avbug]

It has everything to do with Mormons though, which you had made a remark about. I was just asking if you had seen it. Mormon or not, it's worth a look. You should youtube it and watch a clip.

 

It's an entertainment musical, intended to be a farce, and per the playwright, was never intended to accurately represent the church. Therefore, if one wanted to learn or know anything about the Mormon religion, why would one go see a broadway play? One might as well go see Fiddler on the Roof. It would be an equally accurate portrayal of Mormonism...because neither one have anything to do with the church. One has no relation at all, and the other is intended to poke fun at the religion (made by the same folks that do South Park, right?).

 

It's rather like instructing someone to learn Catholicism by watching The Exorcist. Ridiculous.

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It's an entertainment musical, intended to be a farce, and per the playwright, was never intended to accurately represent the church. Therefore, if one wanted to learn or know anything about the Mormon religion, why would one go see a broadway play? One might as well go see Fiddler on the Roof. It would be an equally accurate portrayal of Mormonism...because neither one have anything to do with the church. One has no relation at all, and the other is intended to poke fun at the religion (made by the same folks that do South Park, right?).

 

It's rather like instructing someone to learn Catholicism by watching The Exorcist. Ridiculous.

 

For one, the disclaimer that it is not based on the church in question is merely to avoid litigation.

 

Second, if you know anything about the Church o Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (I do), you would know that it is actually pretty accurate, which makes it all the more comical. In fact, I know Mormons that saw the show and really enjoyed it because, though they knew it was a comedy, they did not realize that the comedic focus was on the rediculousness of some aspects of the religion. The irony is thick enough to cut with a knife there.

 

Third, I was merely asking if you had seen it.

 

Last, I guess I was right when I guessed that ou have no sense of humor.

 

[avbug]

You guess you guessed? You're familiar with the basic fallacy of assumption, are you not?

 

For one, the disclaimer that it is not based on the church in question is merely to avoid litigation.

 

No, that's most certainly not the case. It's not based on the church because it was never intended to be based on the church. The research for the project involved flying to Salt Lake City and "interviewing a bunch of ex-missionaries." In fact, given that the LDS church doesn't authorize productions based on the Book of Mormon or using the name of the church, the playwright had a much greater chance of litigation using the name they did. It's not based on the church in any accurate portrayal, any more than South Park was an accurate portrayal of society, or Team America World Police accurately reflected society in the United States. It was intended to garner laughs and make money at the box office, period.

 

I won't be paying good money to see live theater in which one of the principle characters is named "Buttf*cking Naked" and one of the theme songs is called "f*ck You God."

 

If that's your cup of tea, so be it, but don't try to tie that to a legitimate Christian theology.

[terminal_velo]

I've heard the same thing, from Mormons, that while exaggerated for the sake of humour, there is is a lot of truth in it.

 

Kind of like satirical news shows, the Daily Show or something, where the stories are real, but get made fun of.

[pilot#476398]

Christians and Atheists, and Mormons,...oh' my!

 

If aliens are out there reading this sh*t, they're probably laughing their asses off (probably also why the only ones that do come here just want to shove probes up our asses)!

 

...although if God's up there, he's probably laughing his ass off too,...since he's a Buddhist.

[terminal_velo]

if God's up there ... he's a Buddhist.

 

Prove it.

 

[pilot#476398]

Prove it.

 

 

Here ya go!

 

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/152284/gods-a-buddhist

 

If the link doesn't work its season 4 episode 11.

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You guess you guessed? You're familiar with the basic fallacy of assumption, are you not?

 

 

 

No, that's most certainly not the case. It's not based on the church because it was never intended to be based on the church. The research for the project involved flying to Salt Lake City and "interviewing a bunch of ex-missionaries." In fact, given that the LDS church doesn't authorize productions based on the Book of Mormon or using the name of the church, the playwright had a much greater chance of litigation using the name they did. It's not based on the church in any accurate portrayal, any more than South Park was an accurate portrayal of society, or Team America World Police accurately reflected society in the United States. It was intended to garner laughs and make money at the box office, period.

 

I won't be paying good money to see live theater in which one of the principle characters is named "Buttf*cking Naked" and one of the theme songs is called "f*ck You God."

 

If that's your cup of tea, so be it, but don't try to tie that to a legitimate Christian theology.

 

"Legitimate Christian theology"... If I believed there was such a thing, it would definitely not be the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. But ok. I'll leave it alone. I can tell this is not going anywhere.