Spike Posted March 3, 2013 Posted March 3, 2013 I can tell this is not going anywhere. No chit........ Giggle....... Quote
avbug Posted March 3, 2013 Posted March 3, 2013 (edited) ...although if God's up there, he's probably laughing his ass off too,...since he's a Buddhist. No, that would be Richard Gere (when he's not involved with hamsters). If I believed there was such a thing, it would definitely not be the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. But ok. You don't believe any such thing, so it really doesn't matter, does it? Given that there are only two Christian Churches today which claim direct revelation and direct lineal authority from Christ, and have established the lines thereof, it's in a fairly exclusive group of those which have any claim to such authority. But you don't believe in any of that, so for the purposes of your discussion it's really irrelevant. Never the less, grouping the LDS faith with gay and lesbian interests and other such irrelevancies is way off the mark, as it comparisons to understanding through satirical off-broadway theatrical antics. Edited March 3, 2013 by avbug Quote
helonorth Posted March 4, 2013 Posted March 4, 2013 Who else but avbug would bring up the "exclusive group of those which have any claim to such authority" (BTW, what does that mean and what "authority" do they possess?) and the Richard Gere gerbiling thing in the same post? Theater can also be quite relevant and provocative. But you know that. Quote
Plumberpilot Posted March 4, 2013 Posted March 4, 2013 and that my friend is how you dry cherries. 1 Quote
Counterrotate Posted March 4, 2013 Posted March 4, 2013 Given that there are only two Christian Churches today which claim direct revelation and direct lineal authority from Christ, and have established the lines thereof, it's in a fairly exclusive group of those which have any claim to such authority. Listen to yourself. You are making my point for me. This stuff is nonsense. All the aforementioned musical does is add some satire and present the religion in a humorous light. It could have been based on any religion, but some of the unusual aspects of The Book of Mormon and the stereotype of cheery young men in suits riding bicycles and knocking on doors makes it an easy target for such humor. The musical is really no more ridiculous than the religion itself, but at least the musical does not take itself so seriously. Hey, I mean, I can take a joke too. I saw a video making fun of Richard Dawkins the other day that absolutely cracked me up. Although humorous, I consider the premise just as inaccurate as you consider the premise for "The Book of Mormon" musical. The stereotype of the snooty know-it-all Atheist is just as provocative as that of the bible-thumping self-assured Christian. All I can really ask is that people keep their eyes (and their minds) open. And before you jump on someone simply for their beliefs, take a good hard look at yourself and what you believe in. This whole thread was started on a really really ugly note, by a man who claims to be a good Christian with good Christian values. Those "good Christian values" completely alienated me from Christianity many years ago. I just can't handle the judgmental, prying, hypocritical nature of *most* Christians. Really, what it comes down to is this: Our understanding of existence is incomplete, and there are huge gaps in our psyche from this. We are the questioning animal. We want to know where we came from. We want to feel like we are a part of something greater than ourselves. This desire has manifested itself in several ways. One of those is religion. It provides answers, and makes people feel like they are a part of something bigger than themselves. Scientific exploration is the other. Observing, associating observations, designing theories based on observations, and then testing those theories with new observations in order to try and understand where we came from and what is going on all around us. To me this is the only process that guarantees that I am not just some dumb mark being told what the "truth" is by someone who claims to know. I can actually see and verify *most* of what is told to me by scientists (unlike religion, which asks me to believe what they tell me without any evidence). Man, I love science. Fact is definitely stranger than fiction. And the slowly unraveling story of how we came to be here, told from the perspective of modern science, is a lot more fulfilling, fascinating, and makes a lot more SENSE than the Bible. In fact, after this huge debate going on here over the last few weeks, my curiosity in the Bible was reinvigorated. I picked up the copy I keep here at home and began to peruse some of the stories. I am always mortified by the content, and blown away that after all these thousands of years, people still believe that this stuff is true... Instead of fighting over who's ancient and (by modern standards) ridiculous belief system is correct, why don't we all focus our intellects and energy on finding out what REALLY happened? 1 Quote
pilot#476398 Posted March 4, 2013 Posted March 4, 2013 Instead of fighting over who's ancient and (by modern standards) ridiculous belief system is correct, why don't we all focus our intellects and energy on finding out what REALLY happened? My favorite take on what "really happened" is from a Family Guy episode where God lights one of his farts which explodes out as the Big Bang! Just think, the whole of human existance could just be one big smelly fart? Considering our history,...that sounds about right! Quote
clay Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 Ultimately, does it make a difference in anyone's life if a complete stranger "likes" a post you agree or disagree with? Possibly. It could affect my koala annual ride 1 Quote
C of G Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 Hahaha, you just keep an eye out for those 5000lb decks and you'll do just fine! Quote
SemperGumby Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 It's just interesting that this thread is alive. 1 Quote
terminal_velo Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 It's just interesting that this thread is alive. Mark 10:34: "They will make fun of him, spit on him, whip him, and kill him. But after three two days, the thread will come back to life." Quote
Rob1237051 Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 It's just interesting that this thread is alive. People must be very passionate about the process of drying cherries. Quote
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