UH60L-IP Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Here's some information concerning AFS (Army Fleet Support), which in basic terms refers to the civilians that support flying activities at Fort Rucker - fueling, maintenance, etc. Between 250-300 AFS workers (of the current ~3000 person workforce or 10%) are expecting their layoff notices the day before Christmas exodus. Why? Because the fiscal year 2014 budget is expected to reduce the Fort Rucker flying hours from the planned 250,000 hours to right at 200,000. That is a 20% reduction in flying hours at Fort Rucker alone, in just one fiscal year. Take it for what it is worth. I'm not trying to draw any conclusions from the info but I'm sure you can. Here's a couple of links to the applicable sources, released yesterday: http://www.dothaneagle.com/news/article_d33b445e-3de0-11e3-a6a7-001a4bcf6878.html http://www.iam2003.org/layoff-information/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Yup. It sucks. I know hopefuls will read this and get mad. Dont. Follow your dreams. This is typical for post war. That being said, this sucks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsey Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Yup. It sucks. I know hopefuls will read this and get mad. Dont. Follow your dreams. This is typical for post war. That being said, this sucks.Reality is a bitch. But hey, I leave in 9 days to finally get this show on the road. Bring it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UH60L-IP Posted October 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 I know hopefuls will read this and get mad. Dont. Follow your dreams. This is typical for post war. I totally agree. If you are selected you are going to fly your hours so don't worry about that. Nothing will change for you at Rucker and you likely won't notice a difference anyway - you have nothing to compare it to. Of course your hours will likely be less at your unit too but you probably already knew that would be the case. Manpower always ebbs and flows. Budgets just happen to be tightening right now. I just put this info out for situational awareness. The Army still needs good pilots and always will. The best will always make it through. If you are the best, you've got a spot waiting for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC8488 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 We may just be here a little longer. Leaving flight school as a CW2? Actually, we were just briefed by B Co yesterday that organizations all across post had put in requests for students on hold because of the anticipated bubbles coming down the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLYC2A Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Wow......I guess the acceptance rate will decrease as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redpatcher Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Wow......I guess the acceptance rate will decrease as well. Shhhh don't jinx it. I haven't been selected yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Ahh, the good ol bubble. I spent 6 months waiting to start BOLC from WOCS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardo09203 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Are you still paid during bubbles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob. Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Yes. You will most likely be put to work on funeral detail or some other task. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 There is a reduction in seats this year, a little over 300 with 200 being guard slots. Glad this gypsy wagon is headed there this week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocity173 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) Oh I hated dealing with AFS at Lowe. Can't say I'll shed a tear about this news. Edited October 27, 2013 by Velocity173 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joepatriot Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Sounds like the cuts we've heard about are finally coming to fruitation. Regardless, I'm super excited to being signing in on the 2nd. It really cannot come fast enough! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urs151 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Class sizes are also being reduced from the usual 50-ish down to about 32 for fiscal year '14. Approximately 38 Primary IP's will be laid off in the next two months with layoffs then continuing in the Advanced Division and then BWS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1237051 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 A few years ago I was attached to DynCorp for post reset test flights when they announced a few hundred layoffs. Mass pink slips make for some awful military-contractor interactions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64wannabe Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 How would this effect the upcoming November selection board for both WOFT and Active duty? Lower selection rates or the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLYC2A Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 There is a reduction in seats this year, a little over 300 with 200 being guard slots. Glad this gypsy wagon is headed there this week Where did you find out about these exact numbers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLYC2A Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Class sizes are also being reduced from the usual 50-ish down to about 32 for fiscal year '14. Approximately 38 Primary IP's will be laid off in the next two months with layoffs then continuing in the Advanced Division and then BWS. How did you find out about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterRooster Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Guessing by URS151's name, he had access to the white book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Where did you find out about these exact numbers?Email from higher ups at ngb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Where did you find out about these exact numbers?Email from higher ups at ngb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osterhjm Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 23 SEP 13 - Deadline for the NOVEMBER board is EXTENDED to 28 OCT 13 for the following MOSs: 140A, 140E, 150A, 153A, 290A, 350F, 350G, 351L, 351M, 352N, 914A, and 921A. Bottom Line: We are short applicants applying for 140A, 140E, 150A, 153A, 290A, 350F, 350G, 351L, 351M, 352N, 914A, and 921A! If you have the prerequisite experience for these Warrant Officer MOS' and the desire to submit a packet, then your chances of being selected on the first board of FY 14 is extremely HIGH! That's a direct quote from usarec website, so take everything with a grain of salt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 23 SEP 13 - Deadline for the NOVEMBER board is EXTENDED to 28 OCT 13 for the following MOSs: 140A, 140E, 150A, 153A, 290A, 350F, 350G, 351L, 351M, 352N, 914A, and 921A. Bottom Line: We are short applicants applying for 140A, 140E, 150A, 153A, 290A, 350F, 350G, 351L, 351M, 352N, 914A, and 921A! If you have the prerequisite experience for these Warrant Officer MOS' and the desire to submit a packet, then your chances of being selected on the first board of FY 14 is extremely HIGH! That's a direct quote from usarec website, so take everything with a grain of salt. my intel is from this week. It would supersede this. If you look at the available seats per class, numbers are way low.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLYC2A Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 my intel is from this week. It would supersede this. If you look at the available seats per class, numbers are way low.... Maybe they finally cleared up the 'BACKLOG' ......who knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLYC2A Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Email from higher ups at ngbPlease, don't take this the wrong way.....but how would they know?? You think my old CO or XO would know that information? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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