oh oh !

[Guest pokey]

whaaat?!

¢º Student Pilot Wrecks Helicopter - YouTube.htm

[JohnLeePettimore]

Wow. That's pretty tough. Glad he survived it, but learning to fly is sometHing that you really should have a knowledgeable instructor for. You can't just climb in and say "well let's see what this here does." And not because those are the regulations, but because it's dangerous and puts people around you at risk as well as yourself. This guy lucked out to walk away from it. At least, that's the way I see it. Could be my inexperience talking, but that's a chance I would never take.

[Guest pokey]

I 1st saw this video back in the late 80's, i like to show it to fellow pilots and "critique" all that 'went wrong' / what the pilot was thinking,,,,, adds a bit of impact to the term 'torque compensation' (pun intended)

[Wally]

"Has he been checked out?"

"No, I don't think so."

 

I think he just got checked out...

 

"Hog, are you all right? Hog, get away from that thing! Just get away from it"

Edited April 30, 2014 by Wally

[zippiesdrainage]

Helicopters can be rebuilt, but you'll never get those stains out of the seat.

[JohnLeePettimore]

Don't be "That Guy"

[aeroscout]

At least he didn't start out with "hold my beer"

Followed by "watch this"

And wrapped up with "oops"

[JohnLeePettimore]

At least he didn't start out with "hold my beer"

Followed by "watch this"

And wrapped up with "oops"

Which would have been me if I had pursued this about ten years ago.

[apiaguy]

I heard many years ago that the pilot left the frictions on when he attempted the take-off.

[Spike]

But, be awful careful calling him a "dumbass"…………

[Spike]

I heard many years ago that the pilot left the frictions on when he attempted the take-off.

 

The story I got was he was an airline pilot who thought he could "figure it out" on his own......

[JohnLeePettimore]

No clue on the backstory, but I definitely wouldn't try that at home. I'm dying here waiting on fall to start school. It's killing me! I have the patience of a five-year-old on Christmas eve right now.

[Francis Meyrick]

 

But, be awful careful calling him a "dumbass"…………

Spikey-baby!

 

AWE-some! Your epiphany! Your coming out moment! I am SO impressed. Gold star award!

 

Just remember it's a 12-step program. You have taken the FIRST step, and I applaud you. You have started on the long road, of moving away from haughty judge-mentalism, from "That would never happen to me, I'm so good", from the stereotypical website grump, away from your immaculate conception, towards a goal of greater humility, and, dare I say it, a modicum, of compassion. The embracing of the knowledge of our all-too-common fallibility as pilot-humans. The embracing of the old saying "There for the grace of God, fumble I..."

I am SO impressed. I feel emotionally moved. A real emotional movem...

 

Now just remember it's a 12-stepper, and there's a bunch of us fallible, rookie, clumsy types willing to support you, buddy, all the way. If you need a group hug, or if you want to hold hands, and hum "Kum-Ba-Yah", you know we're here for you.

 

Damn. We'll have you quoting from "Winnie-the-Pooh" yet. There IS hope for the human race. Not-a-lot, mind, but some.

 

[aeroscout]

Moggy is getting all emotional. It's like Spike is his non prodigal son.

[Spike]

It's like Spike is his non prodigal son.

 

Errr, ahhh……. That’s a negative….

[Francis Meyrick]

 

Errr, ahhh……. That’s a negative….

 

double negative, eh? I always knew it. Come on home, son, all is forgiven. Pity about the camels, but there's no point in taking the hump about it. Come on back and join the 'humble family'.

 

There's a cold beer waiting for you in the fridge.

 

Dad

[Guest pokey]

francis? can you be a bigger dick? are your an avbug?

[aeroscout]

 

Errr, ahhh……. That’s a negative….

There were 2 sons as I recall the story. The non prodigal son always gets overlooked.

[aeroscout]

francis? can you be a bigger dick? are your an avbug?

It's all a matter of perspective. From my perspective Moggy is being quite benevolent, and gently persuading someone to consider a better way.

[Francis Meyrick]

 

Well, I’m sorry. Certainly no intent to annoy or irritate anybody.

Don’t mind me. All I was trying to do was stir the s-soup…. I mean, focus attention on is a pet safety theme (mantra) that is well established. I’m certainly not the originator. I’m Just the “dumb-ass” trying to learn the lesson.

Let me try and explain my muddled thinking. Bear with me. I’m not very bright. Remember the safety poster that simply stated:

 

BEEN THERE (done that)

BEEN THERE (done that)

BEEN THERE (done that)

BEEN THERE (…..oops!?)

 

I am convinced that it is worth pursuing the ancient old Aviation Maxim that I just cobbled up, that states: “watch it, brother! Dumb-ass is much easier to do than you might think”.

If you have some slight sympathy with that Maxim, (and learn to apply an additional layer of innate caution to your operations) (a kind of “steps back”, and thinks: “Whoa here, baby!”) you might be a safer pilot. I might be one too, one day, when I grow up. Once you see for yourself (repeatedly) that both you and others DO STUFF, that leaves you shaking your head at yourself (see my scurrilous blog) you might just end up on the prowl for your very own Stupid. I know I am. I assume there’s a two-faced dog loose in my cockpit, (“I’m just a nice puppy and I love you - please feed me”) but he’s wanting to BITE me when I’m not looking.

 

Perforce, many old (and ugly) pilots would suggest this for your consideration: any hint that people feel (or say) that some particular accident pilot was merely a “dumb-ass”, (and that simply explains everything that needs explaining), (the judge’s gavel drops) (let’s all move on) actually suggests a form of “at risk” behavior. Yep. Because you are IMPLYING (are you not): “That would never happen to me! I’m way too good for that…”

Stop right there. Ah, but are you? I know I’m NOT. I’ve proved my humanity to myself rather convincingly, in airplanes and helicopters, sky-diving, motorcycles and matrimony, and I’ve never forgotten the multiple shocks to the system.

There’s often MUCH more to it. Primary training. Primary attitude. Developed attitudes. Checklist habits. Hurry. Rush. Distraction. Really smart, high I.Q. guys have done really dumb things. Expensive things. Even gotten themselves and others killed. Why? There’s more to it than “dumb-ass”. Much more. Don’t be in such a hurry to convict, snort in disgust, and move on, haughty-nose-in-air. Stop. Dig deeper. What life lessons-in-the-sky can we learn here?

Ask yourself: “how many helicopter accidents were in fact avoidable? 20%? 50% 90% 95%? 99%? 100%?? Even where mechanical failure was present, in what percentage even of those cases, was subsequent pilot error the root cause of failing to avoid the big “Oops…!?”

Over and over again, we see how pilots do stuff, that they would have sworn on Grandma’s grave that they would never,ever do. That unguarded “Ooops…!?” moment has radically affected careers. And lives. In ONE bizarre week, flying for the S.O., I landed beside THREE different crashed helicopters, all of which had struck 20 foot high telegraph wires. Three fatals. Two of these birds were going FLAT OUT. Full throttle. Way-hay, watch me! I can fly, like a birrrrrrrddddd….. TWANGGGG! (Say, what!?)

I honestly blog about some of my “Oops…!??” moments, for what it’s worth (probably not-a-lot), simply because I feel that if only I could convince a half dozen pilots that “It’s much easier to do than you think”, then my pestilent, time consuming, two-fingered scribbles at one in the morning would be worth it.

I’ve blogged about a fraction of the bloopers I’ve witnessed, and I’ve fessed up to a fraction of the “Holy Cow!” cardiac caniptions I’ve personally inflicted on myself. It takes an absurd amount of time, and I get discouraged. Then some sadistic moron emails me with warm encouragement, and it’s off to the “two-fingered wars and pieces” again.

So again, I’m sorry if I upset anybody, not the intent. Just wagging a cautionary finger at MYSELF first and foremost. It’s a tough lesson I’ve been trying to learn all my life.

“watch it, brother! It’s much easier to do than you think”.

(I’m sorry, I’ll shut up now.)

 

PS: And, Hokey, you needn’t worry about all the fun-poking Pokey. Spikey is a big boy, and he can take care of himself. I don’t think he took the slightest offense, and none was intended. In fact, he started this mischief by poking fun at moi…..!! I took the subtle dig in post # 10 above to be his humorous middle digit (I laughed), after his and mine little exchange under the post “Dynamic Roll-over". On that exact subject of judgmentalism.

 

And that is what a good forum is all about: challenging normal thinking. If I have erred, I apologize. I have changed my signature away from the parakeet neatly balancing on the ball. I trust you find the new one below more appropriate to my deplorable state.

Humbly, yours.

 

(shut the f@#k up, Moggy. Okay, okay…) (Gone)

Edited May 16, 2014 by Francis Meyrick

[nightsta1ker]

Moggy, you just made my week. Thank you.

[Spike]

No pun intended……..

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyEEP2mKogg

[Francis Meyrick]

OK, OK.... I surrender... MY DUMB-ASS.....

 

[Spike]

No need to surrender cuz you do not fit the category…….

 

And, just so there is no confusion, here is an example of…….

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arZV8yT8nBQ

[aeroscout]

I think Spike is showing examples of how badly stupidity can hurt. The problem is that sometimes they end up hurting more than just themselves.