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Most of my classmates that are going AD didn't get an ATRRS date for WOBC. They just got pcs orders to Rucker for wocs and then after wocs bravo company took care of placing them in a class for WOBC whenever permissive Tdy and whatever else was done and they were ready.

National guard signs up like they are sending you to college. You, go here, now, we said so. Kind of thing

 

Im currently CA national guard, switching into AD. My WOBC start date is scheduled for 20 days after my WOCS graduation. Its still a ways out, but im happy to see start dates for both in ATRRS.

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Are you enlisted or an officer?? Just curious because I'm an officer and I want to make the switch to WO and I'm looking for some info.

 

I'm currently an Army 1LT (P) on Active Duty, and I got picked up to resign and fly as a Warrant in the july board. Message me and I can walk you through the process.

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I'm hearing something about being able to request night-time shower privileges via WO Memo Format? How long do we have to wait before doing so? I've had a damn beard since like 14 y/o and it's easier for me to shave the night before. I can imagine it'll make things a lot easier when you only have so many minutes between reveille and PT...

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I hope I don't have any huge bubbles, what do you do in between?

 

You goto Bravo Company and likely become part of the funeral detail where you get to drive around to some place in the Southeast US a few times a week and perform a funeral for a Soldier (retired or prior service most of the time not usually KIA in combat).

 

It's not that bad of a gig most people hate it though because of the random schedule. I personally didn't mind it. If the place you're going is far enough away then the Army pays for your hotel and gives you a ridiculous amount of money for food. We literally went to a restaurant and had steak and lobster for dinner during the times I went on a funeral. They provide a car for you as well.

 

The funerals themselves last all of about 20 mins so you have plenty of time to just hang out. There are a bunch of you on funeral detail at any given time so when its not your turn to go out and do a funeral then you pretty much just go to work to practice for like an hour then go home for the rest of the day.

 

You can try to take leave or pass or something during the bubble but when I was there B Co said no because everybody kept trying to put in leave so they didn't have to do any details. Not sure if things have changed or not since.

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You goto Bravo Company and likely become part of the funeral detail where you get to drive around to some place in the Southeast US a few times a week and perform a funeral for a Soldier (retired or prior service most of the time not usually KIA in combat).

 

It's not that bad of a gig most people hate it though because of the random schedule. I personally didn't mind it. If the place you're going is far enough away then the Army pays for your hotel and gives you a ridiculous amount of money for food. We literally went to a restaurant and had steak and lobster for dinner during the times I went on a funeral. They provide a car for you as well.

 

The funerals themselves last all of about 20 mins so you have plenty of time to just hang out. There are a bunch of you on funeral detail at any given time so when its not your turn to go out and do a funeral then you pretty much just go to work to practice for like an hour then go home for the rest of the day.

 

You can try to take leave or pass or something during the bubble but when I was there B Co said no because everybody kept trying to put in leave so they didn't have to do any details. Not sure if things have changed or not since.

Nailed it, except leave and pass is taken easily and frequently. Plenty of people for stuff right now

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Nailed it, except leave and pass is taken easily and frequently. Plenty of people for stuff right now

That's not what I'm being told. I was just in the SMO yesterday because they were trying to pull my leave and put me on SDO until my start date. They told me it was because there are not enough people to fill details. I had to fight to keep my leave. Fun Det also tried pulling everyone's pass for Labor Day last week. I've NEVER been able to take leave or pass while assigned to fun det. Almost half of my class got assigned to fun det before we even left our selection brief last Wednesday.

 

To be honest, it's all luck of the draw. I know a few people not assigned to anything right now, and others that have multiple details.

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Must be cause I'm better looking...

 

I have exactly no details, for the last two weeks, prior to sere, and my Labor Day pass was approved and never spoken about.

 

Weird

 

Count your lucky stars, because that won't happen again.

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You guys are there in a bad time. Well I guess its all relative since you don't know what it was like before. B Co didn't used to be so lame but since people kept taking advantage of the system they had to change things.

 

When I had first gotten to Rucker B Co was awesome. You could take leave, pass, anything and nobody cared. If you wanted to hang around then you were pretty much on pass anyway because they never bothered you. Roll call involved calling up there every few days to let them know you were alive. As long as you were at your class when it started they didn't bother you. But like I said people started to screw it up so they started cracking down.

 

By the time I left everybody in the bubbles were doing PT every morning and there was talk from the new CG about even making people in flight school do PT. Fundet was doing PT which never happened when I was there. We'd show up at like 0800 and be home by 0830 in fundet. SERE guys were doing PT up until the Friday before class started.

 

I guess doing PT while in the bubbles at B Co isn't a bad thing. Its just not something we ever did. But doing PT in flight school itself would be horrible. Are they actually making you guys do that now? Anybody know?

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They are trying. It's still kind of up to us but there is a lot of pressure to try and make us get together at least a few times a week, maybe at the gym, and make sure people are actually working out. We haven't started doing that yet and so far haven't received any slack for it. They also want us to be doing diagnostic PT tests. Seems to be mainly up to the class leader though. Ours gives us a lot of reign. Not sure what the other classes are doing.

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This sere guy did pt this morning, Friday, before I leave Sunday...

 

It's really not all that bad here, there bigger and better changes coming up too that I think are for the better. It's actually starting to operate and act like a real company now it seems like.

 

Pretty soon bravo is moving into Pratt Hall, next door to bolc/delta company. Commander briefed that this morning

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This sere guy did pt this morning, Friday, before I leave Sunday...

 

It's really not all that bad here, there bigger and better changes coming up too that I think are for the better. It's actually starting to operate and act like a real company now it seems like.

 

Pretty soon bravo is moving into Pratt Hall, next door to bolc/delta company. Commander briefed that this morning

 

Yeah I guess in the grand scheme of things it is for the better. For those who were prior service B Co was a godsend because it DIDN'T operate like a real company. It was pretty much a building full of people who didn't want to be there and didn't care about anything as long as you went to your next assigned class on the right day. From the little time I spent there it was pretty much a free for all with no PT no accountability no nothing. We'd call in every once and awhile and that was it.

 

I guess when looking at it from a professional standpoint it is better that it operates more how the Army actually is. But saying that, Im glad I left right when all of this new stuff started appearing. Flight school for me was like going to college in a uniform. I actually forgot I was in the Army on some occasions because there was so little "army stuff" going on. There were times when I would get out of my car in uniform and walk a good 50m before running back to get my hat that I forgot to put on lol.

 

Coming from being a prior NCO in the real Army I thoroughly enjoyed the relaxed atmosphere that Rucker had. For better or for worse...Too bad you guys are getting the screws tightened back down now.

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They are trying. It's still kind of up to us but there is a lot of pressure to try and make us get together at least a few times a week, maybe at the gym, and make sure people are actually working out. We haven't started doing that yet and so far haven't received any slack for it. They also want us to be doing diagnostic PT tests. Seems to be mainly up to the class leader though. Ours gives us a lot of reign. Not sure what the other classes are doing.

 

Im sure its because people keep failing the PT tests. The more people fail the more they will crack down. The thing is that some people are just built differently than others. Im sure you've seen so far that there are people who just pick up information instantly and don't have to study. Other people have to study for hours every night to retain the information. Same with PT. I know people who literally didn't run for their entire time they were in flight school and passed the PT test with a 13 or 14 min 2 mile. Other people (like me) have to run multiple times a week forever just to be able to maintain a barely passing run time.

 

Rarely does anybody fail anything but the run. People just need to recognize what type of person they are and be honest with themselves. If you know you can't run for crap then don't start trying to run 2 weeks before the PT test. Just like if you know you don't have a photographic memory then don't try to cram the night before a test. Thats what gets people in trouble on both accounts.

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