yakfishr19 Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 Who's using digital and who is using paper logs? Which is best and what are some of the different digital logbook websites that are popular? Quote
Lindsey Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 Paper, but I'm old school. You can always scan copies of your paper logbook onto your computer as a backup. 1 Quote
akscott60 Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 Yes to both. I digital my military stuff and paper my civvy time. Quote
Wally Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) Both:Digital (my employer has to track my flight time) which I download regularly. I prefer digital, easier and quicker searches;Printed copies every month, and then an annual copy which supersedes the calendar year monthly copies, because I'm an old guy that started with paper. Edited August 7, 2014 by Wally Quote
Cantankerously Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 I have a paper logbook and I use logbook pro. Quote
Gomer Pylot Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 Digital is far more versatile, because you can make paper copies whenever you need them, of whatever data you need. That said, I haven't used any type of logbook in years. It's more trouble than it's worth to me. My employer keeps a file of whatever I need, which is only proof of currency. We do annual updates of everything, and that's about all I have to prove my total hours, but I quit worrying about that long ago. All I'm required to log is whatever proves currency, for both NVG and unaided takeoffs and landings, and the company does that for me. I understand this isn't the case for everyone. For those who actively keep logbooks, I think digital is the way to go. You can keep digital files in the cloud, on local media, or wherever you want. If you paper logbook gets lost, burned, or otherwise destroyed, you're up the creek without a paddle. With multiple digital logs, you should never lose them. Quote
napoleonpp Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 Is it worth recording? Will you need it flying civilian and/or after retirement for another job? I've never heard anything on this. Quote
wm200 Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 Is it worth recording? Will you need it flying civilian and/or after retirement for another job? I've never heard anything on this.I wouldn't trust the Army to keep an accurate logbook for me when they lose half the paperwork I give them. 3 Quote
A-aron Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 I am interested in using a digital log book and am curious what software people use 1 Quote
CharyouTree Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 I'm using zululog, but mostly because I'm on android, and I don't think logbook Pro had a droid app (or still don't).  I like it. :shrug: Quote
01CelicaGTS Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 I keep both a paper and digital. For digital I use myfligtbook. They have an android app and it was the best free option I could find that had a good import function (since I already had most of my time logged in an excel spreadsheet). I liked zululog but the free version didn't work for me because of the lack of free import functionality. If I was starting from scratch I'd go with zululog. Quote
WaterRooster Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 I do both. Zululog gets all my time and I go back and add it to paper once a month. Airline jobs still love paper logs unfortunately Quote
electron_si Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 I just use an excel spreadsheet that has tabs for RW/ FW / Sim time /Cancellations and a summary page for total time. The cancellations page is helpful when you are writing a memo requesting a waiver for annual minimums and you can give day/hour breakdowns for every day you were scheduled to fly and didn't. It helps and will become more common as we transition into a period of limited blade hours. 2 Quote
flybyranch Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 LogTen Pro for me. My employer always asks for ridiculous combinations of flight time and LTP is so easy to workout night-XC-PIC-landings-on Tuesdays-on a bad hair day (alright maybe not that bad!)Â Still LTP works for me... Quote
Lindsey Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 Do you all have any columns dedicated to things unique to military flight? Going to try to keep everything in my civilian logbook. Quote
CharyouTree Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 The only thing I've really noticed that ZuluLog is doing "differently" is asking about NVG iterations. How many times I hovered, transitioned to unaided/back stuff like that. Things that don't matter to a mil. pilot. It also seems like if I'm the SIC, for a 2.0 flight, but on the controls (thus PIC) for 1.0, it still wants to log it as 2.0 SIC, but 1.0 as PIC.... I really need to call them and figure it out. (There might be a different category I should be logging it as, instead of SIC) Quote
Gomer Pylot Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 Don't confuse P time with PIC time. They are not the same thing. Quote
wm200 Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 Can you log PIC in flight school for the time you are flying if you have a FW license but not rotary? Quote
CharyouTree Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 Don't confuse P time with PIC time. They are not the same thing.http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/field_offices/fsdo/sdl/local_more/avsafety_program/media/LOGGING%20PILOT-IN-COMMAND%20TIME.pdf http://www.aptap.org/logging%20pic.pdf Doesn't always apply, but it can. Quote
d10 Posted August 14, 2014 Posted August 14, 2014 There's already a recent thread covering the logging of PIC time. Quote
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