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They've got what, six or so Lakota's on the flightline right now? What percentage of the current TH-67 IPs have gone through the transition? Is there even a Course Management Plan (or Flight Training Guide) for the Lakota yet? I'm pretty certain the maintenance support for the Lakota isn't completely in place yet and there is plenty of training for the maintainers to undergo as well. I simply don't see the logistics falling into place for that kind of a timeline.

 

Mid-2015 sounds really optimistic. They might be able to pull off some small classes in the Lakota by then but my guess is that a full transition is going to take longer than they currently say.

 

I could be wrong though so we'll see. I've just yet to see the Army (or government in general) meet a timeline.

 

How I understand it's going to roll out:

 

For example, Ranger flight IPs (Not sure if just morning, or both groups) stop teaching. They transition. They finish, (presumably get validated...), and then start teaching. One class/flight. The next group of IPs does the same thing. It's going to take quite some time to get all of the IPs through, especially while trying to cause minimal disruption to output.

 

I've also heard that the MMI (Mast moment indicator) is going to be a HUGE issue. So, that will be fun.

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How I understand it's going to roll out:

 

For example, Ranger flight IPs (Not sure if just morning, or both groups) stop teaching. They transition. They finish, (presumably get validated...), and then start teaching. One class/flight. The next group of IPs does the same thing. It's going to take quite some time to get all of the IPs through, especially while trying to cause minimal disruption to output.

 

I've also heard that the MMI (Mast moment indicator) is going to be a HUGE issue. So, that will be fun.

Considering output will be diminished due to lower selection rates in WOCS, I doubt there will be many disruptions.

 

My class is at 38 Candidates right now.

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Yep, he said.

 

Helmand?

 

Nah, Okinawa.

 

I laughed pretty hard at that one.

 

 

....while probably still in the category of Bosnia or Kuwait, a UDP or 31st MEU gig out there isn't exactly always on Okinawa playing Xbox and drinking Sake - if you know what I mean. You probably would end up in any number of SE Asian countries or L class ships depending on time of year, and how bad N. Korea is starving.

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We supported some Whiskey guys here in the ROK a few months ago. Those were some rough birds :ph34r:

 

Yup, getting north of 20-25 years for most, plus the amount that were rebuilt from old T models. Desert Storm, 10 years of saltwater corrosion on boats, and 14 years in Iraq, Afghanistan, and simultaneous MEU deployments will do that.

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It's official: the UH-72 simulators are at Rucker.

 

I'm down here for some PME course and the building I'm in is sharing it with a few of them. Supposedly they're operational.

 

It was addressed earlier, but I wonder if URS is going to have the contract for training going into the transition and what that means for transitioning the current IPs. Moreover, I wonder what they're going to do with all the big simulators they use for instrument training...

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The latest that we've heard is that IP's are going to start going through the transition course in October 2015. The first student class in fiscal 2016 will be held back while the IP's go through this transition.

As far as the simulators are concerned, the Navy is interested in purchasing them (rumor has it)

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Isn't there something about it being FAA-certified that requires the OEM RFM? I'm pretty sure that is why I was issued an "Operator's Supplement" to learn the TH-67 all those years ago rather than being taught the RFM, or issued an RFM ($265/ea as of 09/2014 times every student, times every year, times every revision notice=budget/standards nightmare). The Operator's Supplement was a classic Army workaround to create a document that was configured like a -10 but utilized RFM information.

 

At least the LUH pilots are being exposed to an RFM before they get out into the commercial market.

 

This supplement was prepared by the United States Army Aviation Center as a
supplement to the FAA approved Flight Manual. The FAA approved Flight Manual and this supplement must be carried aboard the helicopter any time it is operated. Compliance with this supplement will assure compliance with all FAA designated "limitations".
-TH-67 Operator's Supplement, para 1-1.2, page 1-1

 

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It's official: the UH-72 simulators are at Rucker.

 

I'm down here for some PME course and the building I'm in is sharing it with a few of them. Supposedly they're operational.

 

It was addressed earlier, but I wonder if URS is going to have the contract for training going into the transition and what that means for transitioning the current IPs. Moreover, I wonder what they're going to do with all the big simulators they use for instrument training...

Please PM me with their location, I'll be going to B Co pretty soon.

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As of two days ago the timeline for IP's has not changed. MOI personnel are currently finishing their training. Management will start their initial training in the next month. The first student class for fiscal yr 2016 this October is cancelled because the first group of primary IP's will start the transition course then.

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