echo4W Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Hey all,so I'm prior enlisted but attempting to go thru the civilian side. I have gotten my appointments for 2 part flight physical, but the second part is after Apr Battalion interview but before May board. my recruiter is telling me that i don't need to have flight physical before my Battalion interview. can anyone verify this? he has been fairly knowledgeable so far i just want to hear it from someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_P148 Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Have you guys seen the New message on the usarec website, looks like a lot of people submitted some false APFT cards to fluff up their packet. It's not surprising though. Unfortunately it happens all too often throughout the army especially for enlisted trying to obtain more promotion points. 18 FEB 15 - ATTENTION ALL APPLICANTS, DUE TO THE RECENT INCREASE OF APFT FAILURES AT WOCS, NEW MEASURES FOR THE APPLICATION WILL BE IMPLEMENTED. BEGINNING ON 1 MAR 15, ALL APPLICANTS WILL BE REQUIRED TO TAKE AN APFT 30 DAYS PRIOR OF REPORTING TO WOCS. ALL SELECTEES WILL BE REQUIRED TO BRING A MEMORANDUM FROM THEIR BDE/BN S3 STIPULATING THE SM HAS PASSED THE APFT AND HT/WT WITHIN THE 30 DAY WINDOW OF REPORTING TO WOCS. ADDITIONALLY, THERE HAVE BEEN UPDATES MADE TO THE DA FORM 61 AND STATEMENT OF UNDERSTANDING TO REFLECT THESE NEW MEASURES. ALL APPLICANTS APPLYING FOR THE MAY BOARD WHO SUBMIT THEIR PACKET AFTER 1 MARCH WILL BE REQUIRED TO USE THE UPDATED FORMS. APPLICANTS WHO WILL SUBMIT THEIR APPLICATION PRIOR TO 1 MAR AND THOSE WHO HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED THEIR APPLICATION WILL BE GRANDFATHERED.This kinda crazy to me, do they still use students as graders? I remember we only had a handful of APFT failures maby 3 or 4 in a class that was 90 +. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaw89 Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Have you guys seen the New message on the usarec website, looks like a lot of people submitted some false APFT cards to fluff up their packet. It's not surprising though. Unfortunately it happens all too often throughout the army especially for enlisted trying to obtain more promotion points. 18 FEB 15 - ATTENTION ALL APPLICANTS, DUE TO THE RECENT INCREASE OF APFT FAILURES AT WOCS, NEW MEASURES FOR THE APPLICATION WILL BE IMPLEMENTED. BEGINNING ON 1 MAR 15, ALL APPLICANTS WILL BE REQUIRED TO TAKE AN APFT 30 DAYS PRIOR OF REPORTING TO WOCS. ALL SELECTEES WILL BE REQUIRED TO BRING A MEMORANDUM FROM THEIR BDE/BN S3 STIPULATING THE SM HAS PASSED THE APFT AND HT/WT WITHIN THE 30 DAY WINDOW OF REPORTING TO WOCS. ADDITIONALLY, THERE HAVE BEEN UPDATES MADE TO THE DA FORM 61 AND STATEMENT OF UNDERSTANDING TO REFLECT THESE NEW MEASURES. ALL APPLICANTS APPLYING FOR THE MAY BOARD WHO SUBMIT THEIR PACKET AFTER 1 MARCH WILL BE REQUIRED TO USE THE UPDATED FORMS. APPLICANTS WHO WILL SUBMIT THEIR APPLICATION PRIOR TO 1 MAR AND THOSE WHO HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED THEIR APPLICATION WILL BE GRANDFATHERED. I would think this would apply to AD, not civilians. Just before WOCS, civ applicants complete BCT and so should be in good enough physical shape, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedream Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 I would think this would apply to AD, not civilians. Just before WOCS, civ applicants complete BCT and so should be in good enough physical shape, correct? Not all civilian applicants go to BCT first. If any civilian applicant is prior Army or USMC, it is my understanding that they have already been through a "Basic Combat Training" and therefore do not need to do it again. Only prior AF, Navy, or CG applicants would need to complete a BCT prior to WOCS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamer Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Really, where did you hear that from? So those who already took it aren't grandfathered in?Google/search http://helicopterforum.verticalreference.com/topic/17753-new-minimum-sift-score/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaw89 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Saw the thread, Yamer. The 50 min was posted, but then taken off the USAREC site last year. I think it's still 40. From USAREC: "The minimum requirement for the SIFT is still 40. There are discussions to raise it to 50 but it hasn't been approved yet and so it hasn't been posted to our website yet. If it does get approved then any applicant that took the SIFT prior to the implementation date will be grandfathered under the current requirement of 40 or better. A retest would not be required" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFmarksman Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Have you guys seen the New message on the usarec website, looks like a lot of people submitted some false APFT cards to fluff up their packet. It's not surprising though. Unfortunately it happens all too often throughout the army especially for enlisted trying to obtain more promotion points. 18 FEB 15 - ATTENTION ALL APPLICANTS, DUE TO THE RECENT INCREASE OF APFT FAILURES AT WOCS, NEW MEASURES FOR THE APPLICATION WILL BE IMPLEMENTED. BEGINNING ON 1 MAR 15, ALL APPLICANTS WILL BE REQUIRED TO TAKE AN APFT 30 DAYS PRIOR OF REPORTING TO WOCS. ALL SELECTEES WILL BE REQUIRED TO BRING A MEMORANDUM FROM THEIR BDE/BN S3 STIPULATING THE SM HAS PASSED THE APFT AND HT/WT WITHIN THE 30 DAY WINDOW OF REPORTING TO WOCS. ADDITIONALLY, THERE HAVE BEEN UPDATES MADE TO THE DA FORM 61 AND STATEMENT OF UNDERSTANDING TO REFLECT THESE NEW MEASURES. ALL APPLICANTS APPLYING FOR THE MAY BOARD WHO SUBMIT THEIR PACKET AFTER 1 MARCH WILL BE REQUIRED TO USE THE UPDATED FORMS. APPLICANTS WHO WILL SUBMIT THEIR APPLICATION PRIOR TO 1 MAR AND THOSE WHO HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED THEIR APPLICATION WILL BE GRANDFATHERED.Was this rescinded already? I dont see it on the site anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamer Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Saw the thread, Yamer. The 50 min was posted, but then taken off the USAREC site last year. I think it's still 40. From USAREC: "The minimum requirement for the SIFT is still 40. There are discussions to raise it to 50 but it hasn't been approved yet and so it hasn't been posted to our website yet. If it does get approved then any applicant that took the SIFT prior to the implementation date will be grandfathered under the current requirement of 40 or better. A retest would not be required"Ah ok cool, I went to wocs shortly after and left the loop of the know. Glad you're informed then. Good luck! I got a 49 so it's possible lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Age: 18GT: 113SIFT: 55APFT: Soon (will update)Education: High School SeniorLOR: Two US Army Majors, two high school coaches/teachers.Other info:Captain of school's tennis teamCo-captain of school's debate, forensics, and swim teams.(State qualified in a multitude of sports)Work with Big Brothers Big Sisters, lot of community events/work. I know my chances, but if I don't apply then I don't have a shot in the first place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaw89 Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Age: 18GT: 113SIFT: 55APFT: Soon (will update)Education: High School SeniorLOR: Two US Army Majors, two high school coaches/teachers.Other info:Captain of school's tennis teamCo-captain of school's debate, forensics, and swim teams.(State qualified in a multitude of sports)Work with Big Brothers Big Sisters, lot of community events/work. I know my chances, but if I don't apply then I don't have a shot in the first place. 18?? You're just a pup. If you don't make it, you'll have plenty more years to try again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 18?? You're just a pup. If you don't make it, you'll have plenty more years to try again! (Turned 18 a week ago.) Thank you, it's just daunting to see other applicants with college degrees and good LoR's applying for the same thing as I am. I don't want to wait four years to become a Warrant Officer, but I will if I need to. I just try and not let other people's stats get to my head. I'm definitely dedicated to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedream Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Why does every day seem so slow now? Will May ever come? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmannino Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Why does every day seem so slow now? Will May ever come? Your telling me, the suspense of finding out if my morale waiver makes it after hearing everyone else say theirs got denied is suspenseful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrish1440 Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 After almost 2 years of lurking around forums and busting my a$$ to build a competitive package, I’m glad to say that I’ve finally got mine submitted today!!!Age: 31GT: 119SIFT: 50 (Feels like I completely bombed it)AFPT: 292Civilian Education: B.S. Homeland Security GPA-3.7, A.A.S. Avionics Technology GPA N/A (Community College of the Air Force), A.A.S. Military Technology Leadership (on my last class) GPA: 3.7Military Education: Airman Leadership School, Electronic Principles School, Intermediate Avionic Systems CourseCertifications: FAA FAR61 PPL Ground Course, FCC Ground Radio Operators LicenseFlight Exp: 11 hours fixed wing (Cessna 172)LOR: Maj. Squadron Commander (F15 Maintenance), Col. Group Commander (F15 Maintenance), Lt Col F15E Pilot (Director of Ops), Lt Col HH-60 Pilot (56th Rescue Squadron Commander)Military Exp: SSgt USAF F15 Intermediate Avionics Technician, 4.5 years TIS, 9 months TIGWaivers: NoneQuick side note- For all of you who are on the table about whether you can put together a package, I’ll just say this; around 5 years ago, I was a 25 year old high school drop out working in a mall selling wireless phones from a cart making $11 per hour. I always wanted to fly but lacked the confidence to pursue my dreams. Joining the military was the best decision I’ve made in my life (not saying its for everyone but there are definitely huge benefits depending on your career path). With my education paid for and aircraft maintenance experience under my belt, I feel I can accomplish anything. Never give up on your goals. You have no idea what your able to achieve until you try. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCav19D Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Medical issue is fixed, I'm waiting on a BN board now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamer Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Wooooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateKnight Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 I'm hoping to get my packet complete in time for this board. Age: 28GT: 125SIFT: 79Education: Bachelor degree. GPA 3.0Aviation Experience: 386 hours fixed wing. Private pilot, CFI sport pilot. LOR's: US Army 0-5 aviator, CWO5 aviator, Navy O-3 aviator, past supervisor, civilian flight instructor. Need to do the PT test. Flight physical getting done tomorrow. Need to do interview. No waivers needed. I am also applying to a reserve unit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratose Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Never been in the military and started this process about a year ago. First time poster and long time lurker. Seems this site is the Mecca for Army flight... Age: 30ASVAB: 137 GT (98 overall)SIFT: 77APFT: 244Education: Mass. Institute of Technology (MIT), Brain & Cognitive Sciences / 3.82 GPA undergrad / 3.35 GPA Masters (1 yr complete)Flight: 2 hrs introBattalion: 74/75 LORs: Dept. Dean, Cardinal, CW3 AviatorOther: Rhodes Scholar, H.S. Salut., Distinguished Service to Psych Science & various editorial awards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratose Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Does anyone have the timeline for the FY15 Board dates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedream Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Does anyone have the timeline for the FY15 Board dates? http://www.usarec.army.mil/hq/warrant/WOgeninfo_boardschedule.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WANNABE*AVN* Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 Well I've been a long time lurker and am in the final stages of my packet. Not gonna make the May board but figure Id post anyways. Age:29 (I'll be 30 when my packet is boarded)GT: 117SIFT: 80PT: not done yetCivilian Education: Associates in Aviation Maintenance (3.0 GPA), Currently in school for my bachelors in Air Transportion/ professional pilot with a 3.1 CUM GPA & 3.5 Major GPA.Military education: AF Airman Leadership school grad. Helicopter Craftsman course.Military Exp: 9.5 years in AF Honorable discharge, E5 at discharge.Flight exp: Current PPL holder with ~100hrs, working on both instrument and commercial certificates.LORs: 2 AF Captains and 1 Major Helicopter pilots, 1 retired SMSgt (E-8) previous supervisor.Not done with my boards or medical stuff but those shouldn't be a huge issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WANNABE*AVN* Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 So I posted my stats on here but they haven't shown up.... Hmm what gives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertrefadmin Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 So I posted my stats on here but they haven't shown up.... Hmm what gives?First time posters first couple posts are manually approved so as to keep spam bots off the board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratose Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 What was the selection % for civilians in January? I'm not sure my PT is all that great so need to work like Rocky in the meantime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ee15 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Well I've been a long time lurker and am in the final stages of my packet. Not gonna make the May board but figure Id post anyways.Age:29 (I'll be 30 when my packet is boarded)GT: 117SIFT: 80PT: not done yetCivilian Education: Associates in Aviation Maintenance (3.0 GPA), Currently in school for my bachelors in Air Transportion/ professional pilot with a 3.1 CUM GPA & 3.5 Major GPA.Military education: AF Airman Leadership school grad. Helicopter Craftsman course.Military Exp: 9.5 years in AF Honorable discharge, E5 at discharge.Flight exp: Current PPL holder with ~100hrs, working on both instrument and commercial certificates.LORs: 2 AF Captains and 1 Major Helicopter pilots, 1 retired SMSgt (E-8) previous supervisor.Not done with my boards or medical stuff but those shouldn't be a huge issue.You really scored an 80 on the SIFT? I don't think I've ever seen a perfect score. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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