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Believe it or not, for as many LTs and RLOs as we think are inept and immature leaders, there's just as many (or more per capita) WOs, who while maybe competent aviators, are horrible leaders and mana

Good thing that post wasnt from two and a half years ago amirite?!

"Hi, I join Army because helicopters." "Here's an airplane."

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Warrants have been very guard heavy lately, which also explains a lot about the recent bubbles. And word on the street is that the FW slots will be coming.

Do not want. Do not.

You have to look at FW in the same aspect of RW, as in, picking the mission not the helicopter. Every airframe has a corresponding personality.

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You have to look at FW in the same aspect of RW, as in, picking the mission not the helicopter. Every airframe has a corresponding personality.

That's exactly what I mean. The aircraft are all amazing and perfect for what they do. But air assault is not attack is not lift is not VIP is not Medevac, etc.

 

Plus 153A = ROTARY wing aviator :lol: can't just go changing the parameters on us, unless of course the Army finally does the right thing and takes the CAS mission from the air force!

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That's exactly what I mean. The aircraft are all amazing and perfect for what they do. But air assault is not attack is not lift is not VIP is not Medevac, etc.

 

Plus 153A = ROTARY wing aviator :lol: can't just go changing the parameters on us, unless of course the Army finally does the right thing and takes the CAS mission from the air force!

Dude if they gave us the CAS mission back I'd be the first in line to take a crack at the Warthog. A pipe dream, but a hell of a nice one.

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How does the selection phase actually work? Do you know OML and what air-frames are available in advance or is that all revealed when you actually have to pick? Just curious if it's all a big mystery up until selection day or if you know this stuff before hand.

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It's revealed by the order in which they call your name. Before that it's a big mystery. You may have a general idea but won't know your exact spot.

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It's not, at the end of they day your flying. Kinda like being the lowest in your class in med school, at the end of the day your still a doctor.

 

I guess that's a great way to look at it, still must be tough though when someone has their mind set on a specific helo.

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I guess that's a great way to look at it, still must be tough though when someone has their mind set on a specific helo.

 

Yup, everyone says pick the mission, but sometimes big army says "mission not available right now, so we're gunna choose for you". Seems like an inefficient way of doing business for both Aviators and HQDA, but it is what it is.

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Spouses? At selection? That's just idiotic. In a room where individuals are making career decisions, some not getting their Airframe of choice, or people are making decisions that can influence the career of the individual sitting next to them; Spouses do not belong there.

 

How are you as a selectee suppose to react when a spouse gets upset over their soldiers selection, or a spouse is upset because you selected the last available, which was their SO's airframe of choice. What about the spouse who is sitting in the room and their SO is the last to select because he/she was the bottom of the OML? It's a bad move by the Command.

 

Furthermore, involving the spouse in selection opens the Command to complaints by Spouses.

 

What's next? Spouse's approval signature on selection boards? Spouse visitation in SERE school? Spouses attending promotion boards?

 

 

Even my wife said "Why?"

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Just witnessed the wildest selection.

 

LTs

7 Apaches

2 Blackhawks

 

WOs

2 Apaches

1 Chinook

1 C-12

 

For the warrants, the two apaches went first, then C-12, and last guy got 47s. I reiterate, zero Blackhawks for Warrants.

 

The C-12 guy will go through the A/L course, then FW transition and "never fly helicopters in the Army again."

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