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Believe it or not, for as many LTs and RLOs as we think are inept and immature leaders, there's just as many (or more per capita) WOs, who while maybe competent aviators, are horrible leaders and mana

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A question about West Point grads kind of relevant to this topic, what time of year do they usually enter flight training? And are they all Lieutenants, or can they opt to be Warrants?

I gotta laugh because so many posts on VR & this topic especially are based on people applying/students in the program reading tea leaves trying to figure out where they'll end up. And that's why I say this question is kind of relevant to this topic.. Im being presumptuous that if Im in a class heavy with young LT's from WP they're gonna be sh*t hot and wanna take the 64's 🙏🤞

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1 hour ago, greyrider245 said:

A question about West Point grads kind of relevant to this topic, what time of year do they usually enter flight training? And are they all Lieutenants, or can they opt to be Warrants?

I gotta laugh because so many posts on VR & this topic especially are based on people applying/students in the program reading tea leaves trying to figure out where they'll end up. And that's why I say this question is kind of relevant to this topic.. Im being presumptuous that if Im in a class heavy with young LT's from WP they're gonna be sh*t hot and wanna take the 64's 🙏🤞

West Point grads are all Lieutenants. Their selections are just as varied as the rest of the students. 

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On 1/9/2021 at 10:28 AM, greyrider245 said:

A question about West Point grads kind of relevant to this topic, what time of year do they usually enter flight training? And are they all Lieutenants, or can they opt to be Warrants?

I gotta laugh because so many posts on VR & this topic especially are based on people applying/students in the program reading tea leaves trying to figure out where they'll end up. And that's why I say this question is kind of relevant to this topic.. Im being presumptuous that if Im in a class heavy with young LT's from WP they're gonna be sh*t hot and wanna take the 64's 🙏🤞

Their ability to fly and grasp aviation concepts will vary just as wildly as street to seaters.  Both ends of the spectrum exist on both the WO and O side.  Some people just have “it”, and some you will be terrified every time they hit the engine start switch.

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On 1/9/2021 at 11:28 AM, greyrider245 said:

A question about West Point grads kind of relevant to this topic, what time of year do they usually enter flight training? And are they all Lieutenants, or can they opt to be Warrants?

I gotta laugh because so many posts on VR & this topic especially are based on people applying/students in the program reading tea leaves trying to figure out where they'll end up. And that's why I say this question is kind of relevant to this topic.. Im being presumptuous that if Im in a class heavy with young LT's from WP they're gonna be sh*t hot and wanna take the 64's 🙏🤞

Top person in my class was a Street to Seater and top 4 Warrants (with another Street to Seater in the mix) beat out all LTs collectively. Top LT was a Westpointer. Never know who's gonna be sh*t hot or hot sh*t. 

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