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Ok so this may seem obvious, but I have a regs question.

 

The SFAR 73 is pretty clear on what needs to be covered in the Flight review to act as PIC in a Robbie to satisfy 61.56.

 

What if a rated helicopter pilot, let's just say who has all his time in a 500c, wants to accomplish a flight review in an R22.

 

Obviously he must have the awareness training before he manipulates the controls.

 

The SFAR 73 also specifies that he must have 10 hr of dual before acting as PIC in an R22.

 

However, for the purposes of 61.56, could he do the review in the R22 after awareness training and not just log PIC time?

 

Forgive me if this is a dumb question.

 

Thanks!

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The difference is acting PIC and logging PIC. If you are a rated Rotorcraft-Helicopter pilot then you may log all of your stick wiggling time as PIC you just cannot ACT as PIC until you have completed all the SFAR 73 requirements.

 

The awareness training and bi-biennial flight review can be one flight.

 

People engineer too much into this Robinson stuff, one reg does not over ride another reg you simply have to comply with all applicable regs. Comply with logging PIC regs and you can log it. Comply with Acting PIC regs and you can act it.

 

"However, for the purposes of 61.56, could he do the review in the R22 after awareness training and not just log PIC time?"

 

Not only can you do the review in the R22 but he can log it as PIC time also. He will just not be able to ACT as PIC until he complies with SFAR 73.

 

Its. That. Simple.

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Ok so this may seem obvious, but I have a regs question.

 

The SFAR 73 is pretty clear on what needs to be covered in the Flight review to act as PIC in a Robbie to satisfy 61.56.

 

What if a rated helicopter pilot, let's just say who has all his time in a 500c, wants to accomplish a flight review in an R22.

 

Obviously he must have the awareness training before he manipulates the controls.

 

The SFAR 73 also specifies that he must have 10 hr of dual before acting as PIC in an R22.

 

However, for the purposes of 61.56, could he do the review in the R22 after awareness training and not just log PIC time?

 

Forgive me if this is a dumb question.

 

Thanks!

 

 

The awareness training and bi-biennial flight review can be one flight.

 

People engineer too much into this Robinson stuff, one reg does not over ride another reg you simply have to comply with all applicable regs. Comply with logging PIC regs and you can log it. Comply with Acting PIC regs and you can act it.

 

"However, for the purposes of 61.56, could he do the review in the R22 after awareness training and not just log PIC time?"

 

Not only can you do the review in the R22 but he can log it as PIC time also. He will just not be able to ACT as PIC until he complies with SFAR 73.

 

Its. That. Simple.

 

That’s right, don’t engineer too much into this Robinson stuff. All he needs is the Awareness Training.

 

There’s no requirement for it to even be logged as PIC, its flight training given, flight training received. He could also log it as dual.

 

Flight training means that training, other than ground training, received from an authorized instructor in flight in an aircraft.

 

§61.56 Flight review.

 

(a) Except as provided in paragraphs and [f] of this section, a flight review consists of a minimum of 1 hour of flight training and 1 hour of ground training.

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