Can AD apply for civilian board if close to DOS?

aggieAF · August 18, 2015

I apologize if this has been answered on the forums, but I was unable to find an answer through my searches.

I am hoping someone on here might have an answer (as the in service WO recruiter did not know)

Can a AD person apply for the civilian board while still in service if they are close to their Date of Separation?

If so how little time left on your contract would you need to do this?

A little background on why I ask the question: I am current AD Air Force with about a year left on my contract. I was denied a conditional release from my functional manager (I tried all kinds of back-channeling, got a lot of high ranking people involved, but the decision is final).

I didn't think the conditional release was going to be an issue so I have already completed most of my packet. I am wondering if I can finish my packet and submit for a civilian board that is around the time of my DOS (since I would be out of the Air Force by the time i needed to inprocess the Army)

Thanks in advance for anyone who might have some insight...

15BTech · August 19, 2015

Will you have any IRR time?

aggieAF · August 19, 2015

Roger. 2 years IRR.

TachedOutOffRoad · August 21, 2015

That's tough.

I would start working it, but make sure the board is after your discharge date. But cannot access into the Army without a conditional release. You still have to be released from IRR but it's easy. Can do most all the steps without a release.

Is this determining if you reenlist or not?

Been out of recruiting for a minute now, but ill check on it.

aggieAF · August 22, 2015

Yes it is determining my reenlistment decision. If I were to reenlist I would be facing the same issue I am now with my career fields manning numbers.

The civilian board seems my only option to keep my hopes of 153a alive. I would want to minimize my break in service as much as I could, so I was hoping I could apply while still active as long as my DOS was before either the actual board date or imminent right after

Velocity173 · August 22, 2015

Well I can tell you this, when I got accepted I had no conditional release. Marines wouldn't grant one so I applied anyway with "no" marked for conditional release. Somehow my packet made it through recruiting and the board and got picked up. Once the error was caught, they were quite explicit in that I could not have a break in service with being accepted in an inter service transfer board. I thought it would be a simple matter of getting out and they just change the paperwork as a civilian applicant. Nope, had to jump through hoops for two months prior to my EAS date to get a conditional release.

Two completely seperate boards that require two completely seperate set of rules.

Edited August 22, 2015 by Velocity173

Creep0321 · August 22, 2015

Marines wouldn't grant one so I applied anyway with "no" marked for conditional release.

Out of curiosity was it your monitor that was giving you pushback, or HQMC?

Velocity173 · August 22, 2015

Out of curiosity was it your monitor that was giving you pushback, or HQMC?

At the time my squadron commander (MACS-4) turned it down. My MOS (7254) was short in manning at the time. I decided what the heck, submit the packet without approval. Got accepted and then worked out a release thru a different CO and different squadron.

Edited August 22, 2015 by Velocity173

Creep0321 · August 23, 2015

Ahhh makes sense. As a Recon Marine I knew I was going to get pushback, but when my platoon chopped to the MEU I routed my conditional release through that COC, (all of whom happened to be aviators).

Velocity173 · August 23, 2015

Ahhh makes sense. As a Recon Marine I knew I was going to get pushback, but when my platoon chopped to the MEU I routed my conditional release through that COC, (all of whom happened to be aviators).

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Yeah all the aviators I met in the Marines were super cool about my interservice transfer. Never had a problem getting an LOR from any of them.

After I got accepted, I got a ride with the local H-53 squadron. Gave me a helmet and sat me in the jump seat. One of the pilots up front said something like "you'll actually get to fly in the Army, unlike us." He said it was like his first flight of the month.

The problems that I faced were internally. Once accepted I was useless in the eyes of my immediate supervisors. Some were almost offended by my wanting to leave the Marines to go Army. I didn't care though. It's something that I worked hard to achieve and as far as I was concerned, I was still "in the fight" by staying military. Whenever you go on to something better in your career, they'll always be those who try and bring you down.