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Ha. All I got to do now is set up my flight physical. Does my recruiter have to do that or can I do that ?

 

You can do it by yourself, but it's a lot easier if your recruiter does it. 90% of the bases I called told me "your recruiter has to call and set it up", I just kept calling till someone finally said sure and here's your appointment date.

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You can do it by yourself, but it's a lot easier if your recruiter does it. 90% of the bases I called told me "your recruiter has to call and set it up", I just kept calling till someone finally said sure and here's your appointment date.

 

My Accessions NCO told me all I had to do was show up to the TMC at Ft. Sam as a walk-in. I get there at 0630 only to have them tell me they only did Part I on certain days. To my luck, they went ahead and worked me in with the BOLC class going through their PHA stations. Had no idea they were going to dilate my pupils though, that was a fun afternoon at work.

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My Accessions NCO told me all I had to do was show up to the TMC at Ft. Sam as a walk-in. I get there at 0630 only to have them tell me they only did Part I on certain days. To my luck, they went ahead and worked me in with the BOLC class going through their PHA stations. Had no idea they were going to dilate my pupils though, that was a fun afternoon at work.

Wait how long is the physical? More than one day?

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Wow. So it's a back to back all day physical? Lol

 

Shouldn't take all day. First part is all the stations: hearing, vision, etc. The second day you actually meet with the Provider and take an EKG. Neither day should take more than about four-ish hours.

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Shouldn't take all day. First part is all the stations: hearing, vision, etc. The second day you actually meet with the Provider and take an EKG. Neither day should take more than about four-ish hours.

My first day I was at Ft. Hood from 0700 until 1400. The follow Friday I was there from 0830 until 1230 for part 2. THEN I ended up having to drive back down there a 3rd time to pick up the stamped paperwork so I could submit it with my packet in time because their fax machines were down. Ft. Hood is 2.5-3 hours from where I live lol...

 

Granted...this was from civilian side so things may take longer since I'm not priority

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My part 1 took me three weeks. Was rushing around in the few minutes I had between class while at ALC, they wouldn't let me make appointments for something non health related, so they said I'd have to wait for the flight physical since I couldn't miss class. Nit picked at it and finally got the last station done (eye), then I just said f**k em and scheduled the part 2. Was done with that in 45 minutes. Was stamped two days later. If you want it, you'll make it happen no matter how long it takes.

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My Accessions NCO told me all I had to do was show up to the TMC at Ft. Sam as a walk-in. I get there at 0630 only to have them tell me they only did Part I on certain days. To my luck, they went ahead and worked me in with the BOLC class going through their PHA stations. Had no idea they were going to dilate my pupils though, that was a fun afternoon at work.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you already military when you decided to apply for WOFT? I was talking about it from the civilian side, nobody at Stewart or Benning knew what the hell I was talking about when I told them I needed a flight physical but I was still a civilian. I kept getting transferred between the same 2 or 3 different medical departments. To be fair, I didn't know at the time who I was really supposed to be talking too either.

 

Wait how long is the physical? More than one day?

 

I got mine done in one day, but I was definitely the exception. Aviation medicine at Fort Drum really worked with me since they knew I wasn't local and couldn't come back for a second day. I got there at 0630 and left around 1630, it was a long day but obviously worth it.

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74 on the SIFT and 134 on the old AFAST.

 

Not sure that the distribution works on determining rank but I'm guessing that's probably a good starting point, as the army spent a lot of time using data to figure what items on the test were a good indicator.

 

That being said, you have to wonder why the min score is so low, but I'm guess it must be the 50 percent or better mark and averages apply.

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74 on the SIFT and 134 on the old AFAST.

 

Not sure that the distribution works on determining rank but I'm guessing that's probably a good starting point, as the army spent a lot of time using data to figure what items on the test were a good indicator.

 

That being said, you have to wonder why the min score is so low, but I'm guess it must be the 50 percent or better mark and averages apply.

 

 

 

I made a 44. :(

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The heck does that even mean. That sift doesn't matter? Or wah.

In my opinion (key word there), it does not matter most of the time. You just have to take it and get the minimum, no reason to worry about the score that much. Honestly, the APFT probably has way more impact on whether or not someone gets picked up for WOFT at least from my limited observations.

 

And then again, if it is 2003 all over again, I am sure APFT would not matter that much either, get the minimum and you are good. Right now, even with all the talk on forums etc, it does not appear that there is an abundance of qualified applicants. My local AD recruiting station had done exactly ONE WOFT packet in the couple of years before I put my packet in.

 

The ARNG unit near me recently said they do not have any applicants eligible to board right now. Many potentials, but none that have followed through with PT or doing the packet. That being said, they do manage to send their quota of guys every year, but they do not have a large competitive pool at their disposal.

 

So if you take the test, get a passing grade, do a nice 220-250 APFT, and have a clear flight physical, to me, you are what the army is looking for and will get in. Barring any attitude or moral issues, like drug use, immaturity, etc etc.

 

Take that with a grain of salt, I'm no one and never served on a board. Talked with a number of folks who have and directly with aviation unit commanders.

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In my opinion (key word there), it does not matter most of the time. You just have to take it and get the minimum, no reason to worry about the score that much. Honestly, the APFT probably has way more impact on whether or not someone gets picked up for WOFT at least from my limited observations.

 

And then again, if it is 2003 all over again, I am sure APFT would not matter that much either, get the minimum and you are good. Right now, even with all the talk on forums etc, it does not appear that there is an abundance of qualified applicants. My local AD recruiting station had done exactly ONE WOFT packet in the couple of years before I put my packet in.

 

The ARNG unit near me recently said they do not have any applicants eligible to board right now. Many potentials, but none that have followed through with PT or doing the packet. That being said, they do manage to send their quota of guys every year, but they do not have a large competitive pool at their disposal.

 

So if you take the test, get a passing grade, do a nice 220-250 APFT, and have a clear flight physical, to me, you are what the army is looking for and will get in. Barring any attitude or moral issues, like drug use, immaturity, etc etc.

 

Take that with a grain of salt, I'm no one and never served on a board. Talked with a number of folks who have and directly with aviation unit commanders.

Ah okay. I get you. Well my buddy got picked up with a 73 another guy got picked up with a 43 so I agree it doesn't make or break. I feel like your resume and letters are the make or break. If you can't portray a good image of yourself to someone who doesn't know you, and your recommenders can't paint a good picture how could they know whether or not you're a good candidate. I was gonna take another pt test because I ended up having to submit my most recent one which dropped from a 272 to a mediocre 250. However I got runners knee from a 6 mile battalion run last week and can barely walk. So unfortunately can't update with a better score before the deadline. But I'm pretty confident in my packet overall to worry about a 250.

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I have to echo some of the above sentiment in feeling inferior to some of these SIFT scores. I got a 52, and I'm over here like....

 

 

 

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don't worry about it too much, you passed and that's what matters. I got selected with a 54 so as long as you kill your APFT and LORs you should be looking solid

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don't worry about it too much, you passed and that's what matters. I got selected with a 54 so as long as you kill your APFT and LORs you should be looking solid

Yeah, all that said, I still got picked up by the January board this year, so yes, the whole man concept applies.

 

Also, in addition, another important piece of advice I got from my warrant officer mentor is to not forget that WO's are not only SME's and technical experts, but also leaders and officers in the military, so don't downplay the importance of displaying, or putting forth, proven leadership ability.

 

Technical aptitude is great, and a certain amount is no doubt needed, but don't neglect the fact that Aviators, regardless of whether they are RLO or Warrant, need to be leaders as well.

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Man some things in this forum never change. I'd say that the top three typical posts go something like this:

 

1. Can I be a pilot?

2. How do you Army Flight School?

3. Something something Lindsey

 

Real talk, here's the secret to getting picked up: Do your best at everything, make your packet reflect this, and just submit a freakin' packet already. I know guys who got picked up with 41's and guys who got picked up with close to 80. Just take the test and do the packet. I've had so many buddies ask me how to get picked up. A month later, "yeah man I'm just so bogged down with (JRTC prep/deployment prep/NCOERs, etc) I haven't had the time...".

You cannot get picked up if you don't take the necessary action.

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Dirty,

 

That's the truth. Honestly, the word I have gotten is that people just don't put their packets up. I've talked to great soldiers that want to do it but find every excuse not spend the time doing the paper work. Pretty straightforward litmus test to be an officer: do you have the attention span to do a stack of paper work where the instructions are spelled out for you?

 

Strange times I guess

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