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hey everyone,

 

being that people will be posting stats and what not for this selection board soon i just thought i would give yall a little help.

 

I will start with the "posting stats"

 

- the SIFT and GT scores is only a check point in the applicat for selection. many people seem to think that if they have a low SIFT score or low GT score they are losing their chances of getting selected. coming from the Warrant Officer Recruiting 153A cooridnator, the only Stat that matters is your APFT. the average "officer" is scoring roughly a 271 however if you score below that please do not feel discouraged. this score is there to make sure you will phyically be able to pass future APFT's and keep up if you will during training. I know im not the fastest of runners however I run half marathons so I am more about pace running.

 

From my understanding one of the biggest aspects of your packet will indeed be your LOR. having someone who may be important to you may not be as important to the board. make sure you are not shooting for the bare 3 unless they are very impressive. from everyone i have spoken with that has either been selected or is currently an officer has enphasized on how much the LOR can carry.

 

The packet itself can be challenging to build. I have run into so many "speed bumps" through the process that at this point im praying my hard work doesnt just go to waste.

 

when writing your "why I want to be an US Army Warrant Officer Aviator", make sure you write about exactly that as dumb as that may sound. I have looked at several packets that have been both selected and non selected, from what I have seen the essays that focus on what you have to bring to the Army as a Warrant Officer seem to do better.

 

I understand some of you reading this might wonder why someone who hasnt even been boarded is telling you this. The reason being is that this packet has been both a challenge for me and an inspiration to keep pushing. im coming from another branch which to me feels like im already under anyone that is already AD in the Army. however if I can spread even the smallest amount of help to those pursuing the same dream as me I am more than happy to help.

 

I have done research for this program for almost a year now and it is a great feeling to finally be able to submit. I wish good luck to every candidate applying!

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Hey guys. This is my first post on this site. Im AD submitting my packet within the next week. My stats are as follows:

Age: 23

SPC

GT: 117

SIFT 57

59 college credits towards BS in CJ(actively enrolled)

GPA- 2.75 :( (its on the uprise though)

No flight experience

LORs- Captain(my Co.) Major(Fld Grd letter) and CW5

APFT- 285

Overall, I feel that it's a decent packet but nothing extraordinary. Maybe I will get lucky!

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Hey guys, So my recruiters told me that this board was cancelled and that I would have to wait until the November board. I haven't verified this, but that won't matter because I can't seem to get them to schedule my flight physical, I'm trying to figure out how to do it myself.

that being said,

 

Age: 31
GT: 128
SIFT: 65
APFT: nothing official yet, max pushups, last run, 13:35 (need to drop 15 secs) and seriously working on my sit-ups
Civilian Education: University of West Florida B.A. Criminal Justice
Flight Physical: Any advice?

LoR: Congressman, Chief of current Fire Department, Retired NFL Head football coach, Working on a couple of military/pilot ones

Flight Time: None
Military Experience: 3 years 19 wks active duty infantry 82d abn with one combat deployment to Afghanistan. some reserve time (6 years total)
Waivers: None

 

Anybody have any advice on getting this physical scheduled? I tried calling Lyster health clinic at Rucker and they told me that I can't be seen there since I'm not active duty. My recruiters keep telling me "It's in the works." I've been hearing that for two months now.

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Age: 30
GT: 118
SIFT: 53
APFT: 270
Civilian Education: Eckerd College B.A., DBU - MBA in Finance
Flight Physical: Pass

LoR: CO (O-6), OIC (O-3), CW2, Personal letter of rec from a judge.

Flight Time: None
Military Experience: 4yrs no deployments
Waivers: Speeding ticket from 10 yrs ago (Are you kidding me?)

 

Got out and now going back civilian. I was supposed to go up for the July board but got told I need a waiver for a speeding ticket disclosure from 10yrs ago? C'mon man... Either way been working on this for about 9 months ready to board and see what happens.

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Hey guys, So my recruiters told me that this board was cancelled and that I would have to wait until the November board. I haven't verified this, but that won't matter because I can't seem to get them to schedule my flight physical, I'm trying to figure out how to do it myself.

that being said,

 

Age: 31

GT: 128

SIFT: 65

APFT: nothing official yet, max pushups, last run, 13:35 (need to drop 15 secs) and seriously working on my sit-ups

Civilian Education: University of West Florida B.A. Criminal Justice

Flight Physical: Any advice?

LoR: Congressman, Chief of current Fire Department, Retired NFL Head football coach, Working on a couple of military/pilot ones

Flight Time: None

Military Experience: 3 years 19 wks active duty infantry 82d abn with one combat deployment to Afghanistan. some reserve time (6 years total)

Waivers: None

 

Anybody have any advice on getting this physical scheduled? I tried calling Lyster health clinic at Rucker and they told me that I can't be seen there since I'm not active duty. My recruiters keep telling me "It's in the works." I've been hearing that for two months now.

 

 

I thought it would be 'easy' - it is per say, but getting things scheduled and aligned is the hard part. Mine will in the end be broken up into four visits because of scheduling. For example, we did not know that initial flight physical optometry actually requires an appointment, as well as a meeting with the flight surgeon. Right now, I have to do them both on separate days. There are still unknowns in the process and I have to pass it all of course. I am sure some experiences have been more efficient and some less so.

 

I might have been able to do it all myself - however my recruiter didn't like the sound of that. I can understand however I think it would have been more expeditious in stead of going though a bunch of channels.

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Looks like I'm over here with you September guys now.

 

All you guys out there working on the September board, make sure your info actually gets submitted! Don't just take your recruiters word for it, check it at all points in the chain of command. Check with the guy you recruiter sends your packet to, check with the next guy he gives it to from there. Make sure it's done!

 

I was going for my second look after not being picked up in March, but my recruiting station told them I was planning on enlisting after not being selected. They removed me from the applicant pool, then my recruiting station didn't give them my updated packet in time for the July board.

 

My recruiter never told me any of this, instead just told me I didn't get selected, thinking I would never know. I was gonna enlist if non selected twice, and was ready to go in there next week, but thankfully I read this forum and figured out my packet never made it to the board.

 

 

"It's so competitive, you're wasting your time trying to get in with a 295 pt, that just doesnt cut it. I'm telling you, go enlisted then submit your packet, you'll get picked up just like that. It's a sure thing. I'd bet my paycheck on it!"

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Hey everyone this is my first post, thought my packet was going to be on the last board but no big deal, now I have time to make improvements to my packet. I'm currently on MCAS New River, NC and I'm a V-22 Mechanic Instructor.

 

SGT

Age- 27

GT- 116

SIFT- 59

APFT- 252

Civilian Education- 92 credits with Southern Illinois University Carbondale towards a B.A. of Science in Aviation Management- GPA of 3.75. I also have my FAA Airframe & Power Plants License from Craven Community College.

LOR- Company Grade(Capt. and former CWO3), Field Grade(Lt. Col.- CH-53E pilot), and Aviator(Maj. V-22 training unit executive officer) I intend on getting more

Flight Time- 250 as Aerial Observer, no seat time however I'm trying to get at least some SIM time

Military Experience- Over 8 years with 3 deployments

Waivers- None

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So, big surprise, the recruiter lied to me. That september board was obviously never cancelled. Apparently he was covering his own ass for not getting my physical scheduled. I can't really figure any other reason for him to lie. So he's gone, and my new recruiter is great. Got me scheduled for everything and has me approved to submit my packet late. So it looks like I will make this September board, unless for some unforeseen circumstances.

​*Update to my stats, got a 274 PT. I was hoping to do a bit better, but it is what it is at this point.

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​*Update to my stats, got a 274 PT. I was hoping to do a bit better, but it is what it is at this point.

That's not bad at all. I was just selected with a 274 APFT score. Good luck.

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That's not bad at all. I was just selected with a 274 APFT score. Good luck.

Selected from active duty with a 258.

 

I had a lot of 1059s that showed honor graduate and commandant's list and NCOERs that showed a relentless improvement from mediocre NCO to awesome in 6-ish years. I think that carried a lot of weight.

 

I got a moral wavier for underage drinking 10 years ago, before I joined the Army if anyone has any questions.

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Hey everyone this is my first post, thought my packet was going to be on the last board but no big deal, now I have time to make improvements to my packet. I'm currently on MCAS New River, NC and I'm a V-22 Mechanic Instructor.

 

SGT

Age- 27

GT- 116

SIFT- 59

APFT- 252

Civilian Education- 92 credits with Southern Illinois University Carbondale towards a B.A. of Science in Aviation Management- GPA of 3.75. I also have my FAA Airframe & Power Plants License from Craven Community College.

LOR- Company Grade(Capt. and former CWO3), Field Grade(Lt. Col.- CH-53E pilot), and Aviator(Maj. V-22 training unit executive officer) I intend on getting more

Flight Time- 250 as Aerial Observer, no seat time however I'm trying to get at least some SIM time

Military Experience- Over 8 years with 3 deployments

Waivers- None

New River huh? I was right up the road at Cherry Point for a while. I don't particularly miss J-ville though. Best of luck to you man.

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Just got back from my battalion board interview. I already did one in February, but since its been so long, they made me come in again. They said I only got a 63/75 last time.

 

I thought I did a much better job this time, but I felt their critiques were a little strange. One big thing was flight time. One of the officers asked, "I see you got recommendation letters from some pilots. Did any of those pilots take you up in an Apaches and fly around? Because that's really what Im expecting as far as someone going in, they should have that experience."

 

C'mon, really? Thats just sounds ridiculous and Im sure there is some protocol that prevents some dude off the street hopping in the gunner seat of an Apache and flying a training mission.

 

The guy in charge basically said, "I don't think you are going to get selected. Your packet isn't very strong, and the selection rate for this is really low. You would have a better chance going in OCS. Im not going to write you a strong recommendation because I don't think you are up to par with the others applying." Said my battalion score would probably be around the same score they gave me last time.

 

The CW5 that wrote me a LOR said I had the best packet he had seen in a year!

 

I hope this doesn't screw me up for the national board.

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Just got back from my battalion board interview. I already did one in February, but since its been so long, they made me come in again. They said I only got a 63/75 last time.

 

I thought I did a much better job this time, but I felt their critiques were a little strange. One big thing was flight time. One of the officers asked, "I see you got recommendation letters from some pilots. Did any of those pilots take you up in an Apaches and fly around? Because that's really what Im expecting as far as someone going in, they should have that experience."

 

C'mon, really? Thats just sounds ridiculous and Im sure there is some protocol that prevents some dude off the street hopping in the gunner seat of an Apache and flying a training mission.

 

The guy in charge basically said, "I don't think you are going to get selected. Your packet isn't very strong, and the selection rate for this is really low. You would have a better chance going in OCS. Im not going to write you a strong recommendation because I don't think you are up to par with the others applying." Said my battalion score would probably be around the same score they gave me last time.

 

The CW5 that wrote me a LOR said I had the best packet he had seen in a year!

 

I hope this doesn't screw me up for the national board.

 

With all due respect to them, they sound misinformed. The last selection board for civilians was 50/51 for fully qualified applicants.

 

If a CW5 thinks you've got a strong packet I'd sleep easy.

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Just got back from my battalion board interview. I already did one in February, but since its been so long, they made me come in again. They said I only got a 63/75 last time.

 

I thought I did a much better job this time, but I felt their critiques were a little strange. One big thing was flight time. One of the officers asked, "I see you got recommendation letters from some pilots. Did any of those pilots take you up in an Apaches and fly around? Because that's really what Im expecting as far as someone going in, they should have that experience."

 

C'mon, really? Thats just sounds ridiculous and Im sure there is some protocol that prevents some dude off the street hopping in the gunner seat of an Apache and flying a training mission.

 

The guy in charge basically said, "I don't think you are going to get selected. Your packet isn't very strong, and the selection rate for this is really low. You would have a better chance going in OCS. Im not going to write you a strong recommendation because I don't think you are up to par with the others applying." Said my battalion score would probably be around the same score they gave me last time.

 

The CW5 that wrote me a LOR said I had the best packet he had seen in a year!

 

I hope this doesn't screw me up for the national board.

Yeaaaa getting a ride in an Apache as a non rated aviator would be against regs.

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