penlandc Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 I know this was mentioned in another thread, but I am not finding it. Are they doing away with 7 week WOCS for 2019? or will they retain a few of those classes. Just wanted to check and see what everyone is hearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpsj17 Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 Im going to WOCS in 2019 and it will be the 7 week course according to the training notification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike0331 Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 Everything I have heard is after Oct 1 they all go to 5 weeks. I guess we'll find out soon enough, but that is what the group of us leaving in the spring has been told. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowlurker Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 Everything I have heard is after Oct 1 they all go to 5 weeks. I guess we'll find out soon enough, but that is what the group of us leaving in the spring has been told. MikeCurrently atrrs still has a few 7 week courses. They probably wouldn't be able to do away with it until 2020, since HRC already has the system set up for 7, unless they just buffer an extra 2 weeks in between graduation and B Co with more details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike0331 Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 Is what it is I guess Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney45 Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 Im registered for the 7 week course that begins January 2019. There is a distance learning portion that we are required to enroll in that is part of a pilot program. Perhaps it is in preparation for the change over to everyone being in a 5 week course. If all FY19 classes are 5 weeks, awesome, but I doubt I will be so lucky. The kicker is Im an E5 with BLC. Id be thrilled to only have to do a 5 week course, however Im just glad to have been selected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gideon Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 "Heard that WOCS was moving to 5 weeks only did that already happen?" "Yes that is a thing now no more 7 week classes." Asked my buddy who had to spend a few months at 1st WOCC as a SGT bc of security clearance not wanting to go trhough. That was his response. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penlandc Posted September 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 "Heard that WOCS was moving to 5 weeks only did that already happen?" "Yes that is a thing now no more 7 week classes." Asked my buddy who had to spend a few months at 1st WOCC as a SGT bc of security clearance not wanting to go trhough. That was his response. https://usacac.army.mil/sites/default/files/documents/cace/wocc/wocsdlenrollment_FY19calendar_050918.pdf I did find this, so I am wondering if it is true. National Guard Bureau wont be issuing "street to seat" dates till October 1st. According to the email I received last week from them. I am wondering if they will stick me in a 7 week or 5 week. I guess it is a 7 week course I can ballpark my basic dates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike0331 Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 We (Guard) were all told we're in the April class, but that after Oct 1st some things would be changing and it will be 5 weeks. Go with the flow I guess... I'd really love an earlier date. We also don't have solid primary dates yet, which is concerning. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowlurker Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 There was a guard guy that just picked up for WOCS last week and is scheduled for the November class, but Im pretty sure he was tech. Switching the schedule over may explain why none of the rest of us have received a Phase II reservation after almost 45 days. We might be waiting until Oct 1st as well. Well get there eventually, just a pain that information is limited and it seems so far out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowlurker Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 Incidentally, I'm pretty sure they are doing away with the Distance Learning portion entirely. You still have to sign in to Blackboard to get certain documents and write your essays, but it appears that as of September 8th, they did away with DL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flanker Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 We (Guard) were all told we're in the April class, but that after Oct 1st some things would be changing and it will be 5 weeks. Go with the flow I guess... I'd really love an earlier date. We also don't have solid primary dates yet, which is concerning. Mike Not sure how its done now a days, but usually have to get wocs, wobc-a, host (no more host apparently) and sere done to get a primary date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike0331 Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 From what I understand with guard we get our WOCS date and a separate date for everything else to start... by Primary I just meant everything else. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukun8ter Posted September 28, 2018 Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 Starting with 19-02, there will be no more 7 week classes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penlandc Posted September 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 Starting with 19-02, there will be no more 7 week classes. I wonder if the will be sending Street to Seat to BLC after Basic if that is the case... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike0331 Posted September 28, 2018 Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 When is that typically? Every 4-5 weeks? Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gideon Posted September 28, 2018 Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 I wonder if the will be sending Street to Seat to BLC after Basic if that is the case... Probably not. They are trying to pump out aviators as quickly as possible. The 2 extra weeks were more in house what the 5 weekers took online. Seemed pretty pointless to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony2447 Posted September 28, 2018 Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 Here is some information they put out at 1st WOCC There will be 3 pilot classes 19-02-19-04 with the intent of changing the rest to 5 week courses.-There will be 5 exams instead of 3 (the 2 usual DL ones)-No more STAFFEX/MDMP-Moving up LANDNAV/LRC to week 2ish (too many people failing LANDNAV)-Less SGL time and more of a focus on academics Like everything in the Army everything changes so don't shoot the messenger if it changes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukun8ter Posted September 28, 2018 Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 When is that typically? Every 4-5 weeks? Mike Not too sure. Haven't seen too many street to seat lately. Last class I know that had a bunch of them was class 18-13. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gideon Posted September 29, 2018 Report Share Posted September 29, 2018 Here is some information they put out at 1st WOCC There will be 3 pilot classes 19-02-19-04 with the intent of changing the rest to 5 week courses.-There will be 5 exams instead of 3 (the 2 usual DL ones)-No more STAFFEX/MDMP-Moving up LANDNAV/LRC to week 2ish (too many people failing LANDNAV)-Less SGL time and more of a focus on academics Like everything in the Army everything changes so don't shoot the messenger if it changes. Any idea what the Academic focus will be? I know Mr. Adams was trying to make it more writing and public speaking focused when he talked with us. More college credits and basic skills than the random stuff they had been teaching. The rest of the changes sound pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ByteFlighter Posted September 29, 2018 Report Share Posted September 29, 2018 https://usacac.army.mil/sites/default/files/documents/cace/wocc/wocsdlenrollment_FY19calendar_050918.pdf I did find this, so I am wondering if it is true. National Guard Bureau wont be issuing "street to seat" dates till October 1st. According to the email I received last week from them. I am wondering if they will stick me in a 7 week or 5 week. I guess it is a 7 week course I can ballpark my basic dates. I am seeing conflicting Information on ATRRS. The document you posted seems to align with course start and ends dates as 7 week classes in FY19 on ATRRS. Are my colleagues on here saying those 7 week reservations in FY19 are changing to 5 week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willhp Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 I am seeing conflicting Information on ATRRS. The document you posted seems to align with course start and ends dates as 7 week classes in FY19 on ATRRS. Are my colleagues on here saying those 7 week reservations in FY19 are changing to 5 week?Yes, as Anthony2447 stated, classes 19-02/19-03/19-04 are the pilot classes to test the new curriculum that condenses 7 weeks into 5. If those classes go well, there will not be anymore 7 week courses. All the reservations will be adjusted in ATRRS for those with 7 week slots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ByteFlighter Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 Yes, as Anthony2447 stated, classes 19-02/19-03/19-04 are the pilot classes to test the new curriculum that condenses 7 weeks into 5. If those classes go well, there will not be anymore 7 week courses. All the reservations will be adjusted in ATRRS for those with 7 week slots. Ah gotcha. I'm curious how they are just going to shorten to 5 weeks for classes that are already scheduled and reserved... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike0331 Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 Are we looking at a delay of start by 2 weeks or an earlier graduation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony2447 Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 Any idea what the Academic focus will be? I know Mr. Adams was trying to make it more writing and public speaking focused when he talked with us. More college credits and basic skills than the random stuff they had been teaching. The rest of the changes sound pretty good.I assuming its going to be all the DL classes they now have to squeeze in. Nothing was mentioned about additional writing and public speaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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