nji7103 Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 I am looking for any piston enstroms that are for sale in the USA. Or any contacts that might be for sale please let me know. I know the couple that are on trade-a-plane have been in accidents, even though they tell you otherwise. Like to find one that is accident free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascott20 Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Tomlinson Aviation has a 280 for sale in Florida. It looks pretty nice! www.tomlinsonaviation.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nji7103 Posted August 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 That is a very nice helicopter, way out of my league though. I should have added that I would like something in the 60 to 120 thousand price range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helidoc Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 I could be wrong but when I was shopping for a 280 I didn't see anything reasonable until about the 165K mark. Anything less then that looked like it would need major work with in 100 to 200 hours and you would end up spending more than what you would saved by paying a little more up front. Two old cliche's.... "you get what you pay for" and "buyer beware!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nji7103 Posted August 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Yes, I agree with both cliches. I know from my looking around that I have found the cheaper ones to have undocumented damage or fixed up by AP's trying to make a buck. The later meaning cheapest way to get it flying. There seems to be a couple of good deals out there but go so fast that when they hit trade-a-plane they are gone the same day. I am so glad a person can look at the NTSB accident database and find these machines were in accidents, because the logbooks do not show it. Did you buy a 280, helidoc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helidoc Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 Yes, I did but eventually sold it and moved up to a 480. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nji7103 Posted August 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 Helidoc, I am sure you have seen the service bulletin out on the elastromeric damper on the 480, here is a link from Aeronews on it. What are a few things to watch for on the 280 or F28 helicopters on a prebuy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helidoc Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 The link did not come through. As far as things to watch for on the 280 and the F28, the most important thing is the engine. Make sure the compressions are all close. Other things included the elastomerics on the main rotor and the tail rotor bearings. Put it on a Chadwick and make sure the tracking is good. This can point to things as simple as adjustments needed or problems with the dampers or main rotor bearings. Cosmetics are not as important but can give a clue to how the bird has been cared for. Get a good mechanic you trust to go over it and the books before you buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nji7103 Posted August 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Thanks for the info and here is the link on the 480 bulletin.http://www.aero-news.net/index.c....dex.cfm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helidoc Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Thanks for the link on that SAIB! I was thinking of making the conversion from hydrolic to elastomeric dampers but now I will hold off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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